True story about the Twin Towers, sad but true!!!

[Highboosted]

As an FAA certified aircraft mechanic, I can find no faults in that movies logic in terms of debris field and component survivability. I have seen what a jet engine looks like after going through a building.....and it still looks like a jet engine, not one or two parts. In almost 25 accidents that I have studied over the few years that I have (I'm an information junkie), I have not came across an downed plane that the tail section did not survive, because there is a pressure bulkhead about 4 feet in front of the tail, where the break-point is. I'm not left OR right wing, I see facts and opinions, and hold no political agendas. In fact, I hate politicians as much as lawyers and insurance companies. They all can burn in hell for all I care.

[caracas_e30]

Originally Posted by ams

I have not used curse words, I have not said anything to put you or anyone else down. I have the right to say what I want to say, just as you do.

And btw cartoon regarding the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh), was disrespectful and derogatory. And was reprinted over and over to simply instigate a reaction. I respect you and your religion, why can't i expect the same from you.

lets take a look into human rights violations committed by the US (such as TORTURE in Abu Ghraib, Baghram and several torture establishments in Europe and Africa and EXECUTION of poor at a much higher rate/percentate than rich who are accused the same crime).

lets take a look and consider economic waste (US commits $500 BILLION to warfare but is the only country in the worlds 15 richest that does not provide health care for its residents -- you'd probably appreciate this more if you were old and poor). And as far as the economy is concerend, we are on as shortage of jobs, because major corporations are outsourcing and moving to other countries

let me ask? can you find an end to the HYPOCRICY? This government demands non-discrimination in other countries' foreign policy, but fails to exercise fairness itself by funding parties in global conflicts that benefit it economically or militarily, encites revolutions and civil wars as a way to gain military advantage, reprimands other governments for human rights violations, but commits them on an organized global scale, and violates international treaties such as the UN Charter, Vienna Conv. & Geneva Convs. to gain economic and military advantages. Despite these violations it insists that others follow them under the threat of military action. It demonizes Islam as a way of turning global opinion in its favor.

Also, in addition to reasearching on the Web, I'd encourage you to read The Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fannon to better understand modern day colonialism.

I am not here to engage in any sort of debate with you, I have the right to speak, again I have not used any curse words in my post, nor have I made any cursed towards you, and have spoken in a proper and peacefull manner.

I dont expect you to respect what I have to say, you have the rights to your opinions


Democrats all the way.

Im am not a person to get into arguments with other people's cultures, their religion, their race, their beliefs....but this is one place that really upsets me. All i ask is that you read this as the opinion of someone other than you as with the same right you have to opiniate.

Here is my simple statement:

Who the hell do they think they are to riot and go on rampant international arguments about a cartoon of the Prophet Muhammed.....when they are always publicly BURNING AMERICAN FLAGS!? Do you see the people of the United States rioting on the streets of LA, DC, New York when we see these acts of flag burning on tv!? Do you see this population go on rampages against other countries!? They have stated that the Prophet cannot be drawn or interpreted in any manner or form....excuse me, that is YOUR religion/beliefs and your own laws in your own country(s)....this is why i live in america, im free to believe as i want.

Complaining about a CARTOON of the Prophet when they burn other countries flags?



Nothing offensive, nothing against any people of any religion or background....but this sets it off for me. I am not American either, but i cherish what this country has to offer, its freedom, the troops of this nation that have fought wars alongside other countries so that i can enjoy this freedom. Its what drew my family here....and what has drawn millions of other families here. In this country you have the right to believe as you please.

[SirTony76]

I think most of the movie is bullshit (what I watched), but the thing that does strike me as interesting is how different the pentagon and the world trade center looked after both being hit by airplanes.

[Janissarie]

Chandler says we will not leave Iraq hahhah

WTF like you didnt leave Vietnam
like you didnt leave Somalia
WTF is up with that do you even know who you are fighting
those people would rather die and have their families die but not have an American in their country. Or tell them how to live thir lives. How will you win you wil come back but hopefully not in a bag bro. The only thing that we should do is leave that fucking place and let them deal with each other.

We will only win if we use nukes and kill them all. And doing that will kill us all.

Now you people dont understand those people they are somewhat like kamikazes they die before they have their country overrun, and the worst part is teh insurgents are not een Irai so they are there just to kill and maim. Every time we kill an insurgent there is two more born. It is another Afghanistan just like the Russians had.

We will come back with our tails between our legs which is better than in a body bag.

I could care less who is a democrat, republican, liberal or WTF they want to be makes no difference to me.

Just know that we are in a war that we will lose for certain so lets lose it now and go home with some saved lives instead being there for 10 years and losing tousands more.

Iraq is now a place for every Islamic fundamentalists dream place. That is where they all want to go and kill Americans as they have free range to do it.

And the thing is they are so dewoted to their cause that they will not back down and there is more of them coming everyday, and more US soldier dying.


SO I say Fuck them and their war lets leave now Exit strategy my ass we lost to Vietnam and who cares fuk em.

Lets secure our borders and take car of our problems and make sure we get Bin Laden.

[Janissarie]

another thing is we are there because it is our jobs especially the soldiers

the soldiers are there because they are told to be there

I dont know any soldier that came back from Iraq and said I loved the war it was great I got to kill this many and blah blah blah

but the Insurgents though they are different they go back to Syria Saudi or WTF they are from and boast to the families look at me I killed an Infideal and Invader and they all aplaud him and now the same Insurgent brings hi brother also and his cousin so they could have trophies on their walls on how they decapitated some Infidel American.


Ask me how I know this

I have talked to mofos like that they are a lost cause
it is better to kill them than to try to understand them as they would rather die.

[91BMW318]

haha I didnt realize this would have started an argument like it did....

[Perimeter85]

You, sir, have no idea with whom you are dealing.

[Jay Arno]

Before I start this let it be known I am not a Conservative, even though I cannot stand the present day party, or a Liberal, don't get me started with these guys.

I've got some shit I'm Conservative about, I've got some shit I'm Liberal about....you have to be yourself or people will walk all over you

Originally Posted by ams

I have not used curse words, I have not said anything to put you or anyone else down. I have the right to say what I want to say, just as you do.

Thats fine, yet you disrespected his party(Possibly?) which in turn is disrespecting him....

Originally Posted by ams

lets take a look into human rights violations committed by the US (such as TORTURE in Abu Ghraib, Baghram and several torture establishments in Europe and Africa and EXECUTION of poor at a much higher rate/percentate than rich who are accused the same crime).

Do you even know what goes on over in the Middle East, not all of it but certain areas?

Here's on excerpt from a 23-page British Gov't document describing the different types of torture used by Suddam Hussein.

CLICK HERE

NEXT:

This is a story that came up very often during the first two weeks of the war, telling the stories of Suddam Husseins' son Uday Hussein.

CLICK HERE

MORE?:

Here's the entire Jihad Manual seized from a Al'Queda loonatic's Mancester England Flat

CLICK HERE

Originally Posted by ams

Also, in addition to reasearching on the Web, I'd encourage you to read The Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fannon to better understand modern day colonialism.

Franz Fanon was a Caribbean French Black man who was wounded in WWII, educated by a French Communist Party leader (Aimé Césaire).
Communism= Total control by one person, over a colony....?

Yes this guy sounds like a hypocrite too me.

I can go all day

[dcmetro240]

E-thugs are soo cool...... It's amazing how much time the two of you are wasting by arguing about this. It happened it's tragic, we are fighting a war that neither one of you can do anything about. So STFU........................... Put all that energy towards something that might benefit somebody in some way. And Jay your the man.....

[delatlanta1281]

hey thanks for comparing this war to Vietnam..... you had me going for a second..... now I know you are full of shit. Don't give me that crap about how they are similar b/c we are in there for all the wrong reasons either..... broad statements mean dick to me. back your claims up with facts. Why will we lose this war? What part of the people hate us? Where are the insurgents coming from.... how is this war going to end like Vietnam? Do you remember the end of Vietnam? Why it ended? Do yuo think the govt. has no plan in place to walk away? It's funny, you didn't mention the gulf war, or wwII....... Every war is different.... when you say we won't win, what do you mean?????? There is now way to win this type of fight. The shit that happened over here happens every day in the middle east. You won't beat a country or army that kills its own..... This needs to be seen through. The nuke comment is a good start, but it isn't the answer. treat it like the gulf, guided bombings, fight from afar. we have the knowledge of where their leaders are, 12 helos and 6 f22s. thats it.

[M3Ab]

Originally Posted by Jay Arno

[b]

Here's on excerpt from a 23-page British Gov't document describing the different types of torture used by Suddam Hussein

I can go all day

Is that the same British government that agreed with the US that Iraq had WMD and was a clear and present danger? I thought so.

You might be able to go all day, but you'll be wrong all day.

[M3Ab]

Originally Posted by delatlanta1281

The nuke comment is a good start, but it isn't the answer. treat it like the gulf, guided bombings, fight from afar. we have the knowledge of where their leaders are, 12 helos and 6 f22s. thats it.

Typical pussy answer, nuke 'em, throw in 'guided' bombs that just happen to kill thousands of civilians and piss them off even more. Comments like these are why the world looks down upon the west now.

[delatlanta1281]

HA! that was awesome! point taken my man!

[M3Ab]

Originally Posted by dcmetro240

E-thugs are soo cool...... It's amazing how much time the two of you are wasting by arguing about this. It happened it's tragic, we are fighting a war that neither one of you can do anything about. So STFU........................... Put all that energy towards something that might benefit somebody in some way.

[chandler]

God this is great...
1. M3ab, Are you convinced there were no wmd's? are you a slave to the media who wants you to believe this as well? may i ask you where they all went then? anyone?

2. First you want me to read Franz Fanon... in which you got owned. are you going to ask me to read Chompsky next? hahaha lol!!!

3. Please don't reference past history when you DON'T KNOW WHAT THE F*CK YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT!

You have demonstrated that you have a very limited and heavily media influenced understanding and knowledge of politics, current events, history and the perseverence and charitable nature of the United States of America.

PLEASE RESPOND PLEASE (so that i can educate you further)