E46 M3, CSL, E60 M5, E63 M6 video's

[1q2w3e4r]

Well, after reading mantronic's thread about the search for a new car and lots of talk of upcoming Porsche's and the E46 M3 I decided to post up some videos.

These are the only links to the video's I have I can find, I've got a heap of other videos if someone can tell me how to get them uploaded from my hard drive.?

E63 M6 @ the Ring

E46 M3 vs Techart 996 TT

Tiff from Top Gear... E60 M5. Nuff said

E46 M3 flying lap of the Ring

Tiff E46 M3 vs M3 CSL @ track

M3 Ring Domination (The ONE to download)

Enjoy


EDITED FOR MORE VIDEO'S

E46 M3 and 600hp E30 M3

Mix of exotics at the Ring. With Sabine in the M5 ring taxi

M3 Burnout

Tiff E46 M3 review. Longish download. Streaming video

1q2w3e4r's E46 M3 @ WSID

RACE CARS

ANTON E46 M3 GTR @ the Ring

Another M3 GTR @ The Ring

[autumn acid]

TOP FIND!

Could someone (Aaron!) Make this thread a stick, and we could just keep adding to it when we find/make vids???

[mantronic]

I was trying the stream them and the didnt work but now ive gone the right click save target as route ... YOU ROCK!

[Jay-684]

damn 56k, that'll take me a week to download and use my entire d/l limit

anyone wanna burn it onto CD and send it to me?

[Aaron318iS]

Originally Posted by autumn acid

Could someone (Aaron!) Make this thread a stick, and we could just keep adding to it when we find/make vids???

It's getting kinda crowded up at the top of the forum... maybe only if theres more vids posted to make it worthwhile!

*edit*
That last video is mad!

[1q2w3e4r]

BUMP for more flicks

[e36mmm]

Hii guys, i was thinking of buying a second hand e46 m3 very soon but there was just sum unanswered questions in my head.
Are there any differences between 2002,2003 and 2004 made m3 coupe's.? As i heard m3 coupe's also come with 19 inch rims which are optional. When these rims are purchased, do they affect the cars performance in any way such as 0-60 or top speed? The SMG 6 spd sequential gearbox that the M3 CSL uses, is that the same gearbox used in the normal M3? If not, what are differences in speed of changing gears. CSL also comes with slicks stock. If the e46 m3 was fitted with similar tyres as the csl, would there be any major differences in lap timing? I know there is a 17hp difference but is the csl jst quicker because of the tyres, or as the hole package. Sorry guys, i dont want to be a pain in the arse, but i would really be glad if you guys could answer my questions so that i can think more clearly and make up my mind more easier. And one more thing the price difference between a brand new e46 m3 and a csl. i know there are 23 or so csl's in australia, but im concerned about the price difference. Which one is the one to go for. I know csl is more lightweight and more uncomfortable but all im wondering about is the performance, lap time and price difference. Thanks...

[NMJ-045]

I have a nice in-car of a M3 GTR going around the Ring, if anyone knows where I can drop a 150meg movie?

[--ANTON--]

Originally Posted by e36mmm

Hii guys, i was thinking of buying a second hand e46 m3 very soon but there was just sum unanswered questions in my head.
Are there any differences between 2002,2003 and 2004 made m3 coupe's.? As i heard m3 coupe's also come with 19 inch rims which are optional. When these rims are purchased, do they affect the cars performance in any way such as 0-60 or top speed? The SMG 6 spd sequential gearbox that the M3 CSL uses, is that the same gearbox used in the normal M3? If not, what are differences in speed of changing gears. CSL also comes with slicks stock. If the e46 m3 was fitted with similar tyres as the csl, would there be any major differences in lap timing? I know there is a 17hp difference but is the csl jst quicker because of the tyres, or as the hole package. Sorry guys, i dont want to be a pain in the arse, but i would really be glad if you guys could answer my questions so that i can think more clearly and make up my mind more easier. And one more thing the price difference between a brand new e46 m3 and a csl. i know there are 23 or so csl's in australia, but im concerned about the price difference. Which one is the one to go for. I know csl is more lightweight and more uncomfortable but all im wondering about is the performance, lap time and price difference. Thanks...

only differences between 02, and 03/04/05 M3's is the tail lights. 03/04/05 have LED lights, 02 doesnt, but they can be baught from BMW and installed for about a grand.

the optional 19's for the m3 dont really effect street driving, but they do effect track performance. it is said by the BMW Driver training instuctors that the 19's do effect the handling of the car (but its barly noticable), and straight line accelleration times remain the same.

The SMG that is used in the CSL is the same box in normal M3's, (but software is a bit different, more track orientated) so its basically the same.

and fitting the semi-slicks that are on the CSL to a regulare M3 will have some effects for handeling, but i have read on the internet that the performance gains are marginal. and the reason the CSL is faster around the track than a normal M3 is because of its tires but also largly because of its weight. the CSL is 110kg lighter ( not much u might say, but the areas were BMW made it light really helped lower the cars center of gravity so it handles alot better than a normal M3).

as for which one is the one to go for, well thats up to personal preference, if you are stricktly looking for performance, then the CSL is the way to go, much faster on the track, but not much faster in stright line. but dont get me wrong, a standard M3 is plenty of fun and BFB it is probably better than the CSL ( still very fast, handles very well, comfortable, and much more useable). the only reason you would get a CSL is really if you were going to be taking it to the track pretty regularly, but if you only rekon you would go to the track a few times the M3 provides you with plenty of entertainment, so if its really just for the streets, go for the M3.

[--ANTON--]

Originally Posted by NMJ-045

I have a nice in-car of a M3 GTR going around the Ring, if anyone knows where I can drop a 150meg movie?

2 vids,

one in the multi exchange -

M3 GTR Nurburgring Video

and the newest video, posted up over on M3forums, but the link is to the BMW usa web site.

http://www.bmwusa.com/nurburgring

[e36mmm]

Originally Posted by --ANTON--

only differences between 02, and 03/04/05 M3's is the tail lights. 03/04/05 have LED lights, 02 doesnt, but they can be baught from BMW and installed for about a grand.

the optional 19's for the m3 dont really effect street driving, but they do effect track performance. it is said by the BMW Driver training instuctors that the 19's do effect the handling of the car (but its barly noticable), and straight line accelleration times remain the same.

The SMG that is used in the CSL is the same box in normal M3's, (but software is a bit different, more track orientated) so its basically the same.

and fitting the semi-slicks that are on the CSL to a regulare M3 will have some effects for handeling, but i have read on the internet that the performance gains are marginal. and the reason the CSL is faster around the track than a normal M3 is because of its tires but also largly because of its weight. the CSL is 110kg lighter ( not much u might say, but the areas were BMW made it light really helped lower the cars center of gravity so it handles alot better than a normal M3).

as for which one is the one to go for, well thats up to personal preference, if you are stricktly looking for performance, then the CSL is the way to go, much faster on the track, but not much faster in stright line. but dont get me wrong, a standard M3 is plenty of fun and BFB it is probably better than the CSL ( still very fast, handles very well, comfortable, and much more useable). the only reason you would get a CSL is really if you were going to be taking it to the track pretty regularly, but if you only rekon you would go to the track a few times the M3 provides you with plenty of entertainment, so if its really just for the streets, go for the M3.

Anton, thanks a lot for your help and kindness. I really appreciate it. I now do see the point where csl comes handy (track that is). Then, with your help, im going to get the e46 m3 (model 2003-05). Like you said they use the same smgII transmission. They say CSL changes gears in 0.08 secs. Which is damn quick but would that be the same for the e46 m3? Im not sure if manual is quick as the smgII. If both csl smgII and e46 m3 smgII change gears at same time, i guess a human would not be able to change gears at 0.08 secs rite heuhe. Remember how the e36 m3 had smg problems because of their first time, i heard smgII used on e46 m3's are much more improved and handle brilliant. I dont have a problem fun wise because i know i will enjoy both. I jst want to go for the transmission that changed quicker gears. But i heard smg are very handy in e46 m3's. In otherwords, is smgII quicker than 6-spd manual on e46 m3's???

[e36mmm]

Anton, while i was waiting for a reply from you about the smg2, i found a very useful website explaining the effiency and effectiveness of the smg2 transmission. On the site that i will paste here at the end of the message, you can view it your self as it's very interesting and useful info about the transmission. Like i asked before if the csl and m3 changed gears at same time, and yes they do. E46 M3 SMGII changes gears in 80 milliseconds, which is 0.08 secs, thats the same with the csl and damn im impressed. Im definetly getting the smgII on the e46 m3. Thanks for your help by the way. Like you said before, i definetly agree about which car is more reliable and road worthy. Damn, i can not wait till i get the car.






http://www.bmwnation.com/ARTICLES/smgii_01.html

[1q2w3e4r]

Hey.

Nice to see you've come around to respect the E46 M3's after the fun well all had in the other thread hey No hard feelings!

The SMG II changes quicker than the 6 speed MT without a doubt. However in a straight line (1/4 mile) the 6 speed manual will be consistantly quicker.

This is because the SMG II has "launch control". The US spec models can only launch from 1800-2500 rpms from memory while the Euro and Aussie spec's lauch from a maximum 3500 rpm (once again from memory. But it's NO higher than this). The 6 MT can be launched at any rpm so it's consistantly quicker off the mark and hence down the 1/4.

Best bit of advice would be to drive a couple of E46 M3's with a 6 speed MT and SMG II and decide which one you want. I was set on a 6 MT so that's what I bought. I didn't drive the SMG II and I don't regret it too much. I'm happy with the 6 MT.

The differences between the M3 and CSL are pretty vast. As was mentioned the CSL is stripped of about 140 kilos. Not 110 (bone stock E46 M3's weigh 1520kg and the CSL is 1385). The SMG II is unchanged from memory, however the CSL comes with M track mode. Ripped out interior and carbon fibre everywhere (including the roof) and alacanta trim. It has some minor engine modifications to get that extra kw. Which basically comes from a different airbox (with a wicked induction sound if you listen to the CSL video I posted at the top of the page) and reprogrammed ecu.

If money were no object and you were happy to give up some comforts I'd get the CSL. Provided you had another car. CSL's run at the price of a new M3 nowdays.

If it's going to be your only driver get the standard M3, and opt for the 19 inch rims. They don't hamper performance in any shape and the CSL runs 19s as standard anyways.

[1q2w3e4r]

Originally Posted by --ANTON--

2 vids,

one in the multi exchange -

M3 GTR Nurburgring Video

and the newest video, posted up over on M3forums, but the link is to the BMW usa web site.

http://www.bmwusa.com/nurburgring

Nice video's! I linked them up the top so more people will see them. Got any others?

This has to be going close to a sticky

[Wald0]

I'd almost have to say the one called "M3 Ring Domination (The ONE to download)" has been edited to make it look faster. Look at the indicators on the E36 at the start, I'm pretty sure mine don't flash that fast!
Could it be coincidence that they've put a piece of music over the top so you can't hear the engine sound?
Be good to see some more movies LIKE that one on here though!
I agree Aaron, too many stickie's look crap but if it turns into a high enough quality thread then I'm sure I'd get over it.