Volkswagen GTi DSG vs 6spd manual

trev0006 · #1 (**permalink**) 04-20-2006, 12:45 PM

Faux Don · #2 (**permalink**) 04-20-2006, 03:32 PM

is this dsg the twin-cone design with the multi-link chain and the cones just move closer or further apart to change gearing? So you could program your gearing with a computer instead of a wrench.

If so, im excited.

e30-ix kid · #3 (**permalink**) 04-20-2006, 03:45 PM

im skeptical, too much technology. i'll still take a getrag manual over that fancy crap any day.

Highboosted · #4 (**permalink**) 04-23-2006, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Faux Don

is this dsg the twin-cone design with the multi-link chain and the cones just move closer or further apart to change gearing? So you could program your gearing with a computer instead of a wrench.

If so, im excited.

No, the DSG uses 2 clutchs and computer controlled manual box, and preselects the next gear for fast shifting.

Janissarie · #5 (**permalink**) 04-23-2006, 01:37 PM

DSG is a great system in my opinion better than teh SMG BMW uses

Faux Don · #6 (**permalink**) 04-23-2006, 03:10 PM

crazazy

mtechnik · #7 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 02:50 AM

interesting

Faux Don · #8 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 02:00 PM

ok now, then whats a dogbox?

delatlanta1281 · #9 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 06:42 PM

e30-ix kid · #10 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Faux Don

ok now, then whats a dogbox?

transmission with straight-cut gears. makes a high pitched whining noise.
ex. http://www.bmwtransact.com/microsite/Nurburgring/

CapnNismo · #11 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 07:34 PM

Should be interesting to see if this technology filters into the Japanese and American cars and maybe into the rest of Europe.

The Japanese and Americans already have CVT technology, so I would imagine the DSG isn't too far of a leap from that or BMW's SMG.

Faux Don · #12 (**permalink**) 04-24-2006, 09:31 PM

straight-cut gears????? what the heck

328155 · #13 (**permalink**) 04-25-2006, 06:49 PM

That looks like an awesome system, is 9.6 a good 1/8 mile time?

Quack · #14 (**permalink**) 04-26-2006, 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by 328155

That looks like an awesome system, is 9.6 a good 1/8 mile time?

yup it is, & 1/4 in less than 15sec

Highboosted · #15 (**permalink**) 04-26-2006, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Faux Don

straight-cut gears????? what the heck

Actually a dog box (or crash box) can have helical cut gears and not whine. What makes a dog box a dog box is the dog tooth engagement (no syncronizers). you have to double clutch it, or use force and fast shifting to shift it.

That twin cone transmission you were talking about is Audi's CVT.