Wtf... (Finish To F1 Race)

[KR - 318i]

What The F#@!...??

Is anyone else watching the Formula 1... what the **** was that shit at the end of the race... Barrichello led from Start --> Finish, ran a great race, technically perfect and led every farkin step of the way.... perfectly executed pit stops and take offs after the safety car left the track.... not to mention quickest in all of the qualifying sessions, culminating in Pole Position.. ... brilliant from start to finish.... and then they let Schuey thru in the last 50 metres of the race... !!

Seriously... Barrichello has had the shittiest luck in the F1 this year... he finally earns a race victory... and he doesnt get to savour it in terms of the podium (I am sure in his mind, he is content, however, a truly humble winner in my opinion)... ... (dont get me wrong, I love Schumacher, he is the champion of all champions in my mind, second only to Ayton Senna)... but I just dont understand the Ferrari Team sometimes... .... (I guess its caus Schuey has never won in Austria, they figured, Milestone time and give him more of a buffer in the Championship Title... still... all said and done, Barrichello was my winner for the night !!

On another note... Juan Montoya missed having his ass taken off by a flying Sauber... ... thoughts are with Takuma Sato currently in hospital due to the spectacular crash... ... ... a entertaining and positive race in most respects... bit questionable on the ending unfortunately... !!

[oliie]

Race report: Schumi handed victory in Austria 12 May 2002


Michael Schumacher has taken his first Austrian Grand Prix win after team mate Rubens Barrichello moved aside on the very last straight to hand him victory. Barrichello had been in charge all afternoon after starting from pole position, but then bowed to team orders on the final lap.
Juan Pablo Montoya finished a distant third for Williams, just ahead of team mate Ralf Schumacher. In fifth place Giancarlo Fisichella took Jordan's first points of the year. It followed a dramatic accident for team mate Takuma Sato which saw the Japanese suffer severe concussion. David Coulthard finished sixth for McLaren.

Barrichello appeared comfortable at the front throughout the race and looked set for victory before the direction to move aside for Schumacher. On the podium the world champion insisted Barrichello stand on the top step, and in the press conference Barrichello again took centre stage.

"I am going through a period of a very good time in my life - as a better person, a better driver," said Barrichello afterwards. "My determination will get more wins, there was no point arguing. Michael gave me the trophy that I will take home. I am happy about that."


Meanwhile Schumacher admitted he was surprised by the result: "It was a team decision. Last year I was involved in the decision (regarding team orders) because it was tighter. I didn't believe it. Suddenly they told me he would move over.

"I am not very pleased about it either but we have to look what are the team's ambitions. They are out to win the championship. I have to thank Rubens. He has been outstanding all weekend. I don't take a lot of joy from this victory."

At the start of the race Barrichello led a Ferrari one-two in the first corner, as Schumacher moved past his brother from third on the grid. Meanwhile, Nick Heidfeld made a superb start to get past the other Williams of Montoya to take third. However a mistake from the Sauber driver later in the first lap then dropped him back to fifth.


As the two Ferraris started to pull clear from the Williams, further down the field Jacques Villeneuve was starting a storming drive for BAR. He clashed with the Arrows of Heinz-Harald Frentzen at the second corner, but then went on to put passes on numerous drivers as he moved up as high as third later in the race.

By lap 15 the Ferraris were already lapping backmarkers. The first of two safety car periods began on lap 24 after BAR's Olivier Panis spun to a halt on the pit straight after a mechanical failure. The Frenchman was lucky to avoid hitting the pit wall as he retired for the sixth time in six races.

The Ferraris, Villeneuve and Sato used the safety car period to make their first pit stops. This dropped Schumacher to third place behind brother Ralf when the race went green on lap 27.


The safety car was back out just a lap later for a far more serious incident. Heidfeld lost control on the approach to Remus, slewing across the corner and slamming into the left side of Sato's Jordan.

Heidfeld was quickly out of his car, but it was several anxious minutes before medics removed Sato from his cockpit and stretchered him into a waiting ambulance. With no broken bones but suffering from concussion, he was later helicoptered to hospital for further precautionary checks.

Several drivers used the safety car period to make pit stops and the race restarted on lap 36. Villeneuve was soon on the charge again, going past Fisichella and Coulthard in the space of two laps to move up to fifth.

Montoya, who had avoided the out-of-control Heidfeld by literally centimetres, moved ahead of Ralf Schumacher thanks to a quicker pit stop on lap 52. Ralf was then within a second of his team mate for the final laps, but was unable to find a way past the Colombian. Williams were the only team to try a one-stop strategy, but it wasn't enough to move them ahead of Ferrari.

Barrichello and Schumacher made their second and final stops on laps 61 and 63 respectively, with the leader retaining an advantage of over four seconds. This closed in the final minutes as Schumacher put in the fastest lap of the race with a 1.09.298 (lap 69). However, he still did not look like finding a way past Barrichello until the Brazilian slowed dramatically as they approached the chequered flag

[KR - 318i]

Just viewed the Press Conference and Podium Activities... ... I have an amazing level of respect for Rubens Barrichello... ... the dignity and the humble approach of the man, calm and accepting, and content with his own achievements... cant ask for more than that... ...................... on top of that, Michael Schumacher is still my hero, his comments to the press are very commendable and always a statesman along with Rubens... ... I am understanding of Team Ferrari's decisions (and not the personal choice of either driver), the above thread starter was just a vent to a dissapointing series of events... ...

Todays Champions = Michael Schumacher + Rubens Barrichello...

[EEE21M]

At the end of the day Barachello is under instruction from Jean Todt, the boss of the team. I think it is bullshit the way it ended though. The reason that the want Schumacher to win so bad is because they want him to equal Fangio's record of 5 title wins in a career. I don't think that they are going about it the right way. I just watched the press conference, Schumacher wasn't happy about the decision either but at the end of the day it is Ferrari paying the bills and like he said you never know how the next race will go and if you would have needed those points after all.
But it is very disapointing that it ended like that. Fangio never had to deal with team orders.....

[EEE21M]

Schumacher is the best driver in the field but he has done a few things in the past that were pretty dirty, I seem to remember him moving over on Damon Hill, Ollie you would remember that wouldn't you?

[oliie]

Originally posted by EEE21M
Schumacher is the best driver in the field but he has done a few things in the past that were pretty dirty, I seem to remember him moving over on Damon Hill, Ollie you would remember that wouldn't you?

yeah they once had a fight.. almost!

I was lucky enough to watch the f1 in Silverstone (UK).. i think it was '96. Good stuff!

At the end of the day Ferrari just wants to ensure they take the championship.

Their drawback is not realising that barichello is indeed just as capable as Shuey - which in itself is ironic considering the fact that they just extended barichello's contract.

The day barichello goes past shuey over the finish line is the day shuey and ferrari realise that there are two, not one, great drivers on the team.

O.

[babbo]

Hmm... all in all an interesting race.

Yeah, they are both good drivers, but at the end of the day, its more than just the race that makes the 'winner'

Anyhow, I'm off to bed, another early start today

[KR - 318i]

Originally posted by oliie


I was lucky enough to watch the f1 in Silverstone (UK).. i think it was '96. Good stuff!

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The day barichello goes past shuey over the finish line is the day shuey and ferrari realise that there are two, not one, great drivers on the team.

O.

That was the one positive out of living in Malaysia... ... I attended multiple 500cc Motorcycle Grand Prix's at Shah Alam (via which I met Mick Doohan and a few others post-race), and a couple Formula 1 Grand Prix in Malaysia (and like Ollie, a single attendance to a Formula 1 at Silverstone in the UK, however, I was much too young to remember anything bar the roar of the cars around the track (and wearing earmuffs to protect my delicate little ears ), hehehe, which consequently were ruined by a certain EEE21M the second I met him !!

Excellent Statements, btw, Ollie and Marc... ... I agree wholeheartedly with the comments of both... !!

[EEE21M]

I was lucky enough to attend the last 2 Adelaide GP's and the first Melbourne one, isn't it amazing to actually see them live, and to hear them!!!

[KR - 318i]

Originally posted by EEE21M
I was lucky enough to attend the last 2 Adelaide GP's and the first Melbourne one, isn't it amazing to actually see them live, and to hear them!!!

Nothing beats motorsport... ... ...

Hehehe... I unfortunately missed out on the Melbourne Grand Prix this year... ... my dad on the other hand has a couple cool memories to take away from it... ... including stating to a nice police officer "I am on my way to the Grand Prix" ... to which the officer replied "correct sir, you are on your way, you are not in it" ....hehehe, what a line... hehehe, 129 in a 110 zone in his brand new car on the way to his favourite event of the year... hehehe, priceless ... wish I was there... !!

Anyways.... Another excellent few hours of television... now I am off to finish a speech on Negligence and wake up in about 4 and a half hours to go to uni.... !!

[glowth]

I have to admit I've kinda lost interest in the F1 this year. Too predictable with not alot of close racing.

Give me World Superbikes anytime! Did anyone watch the racing last night at Monza? NOW THAT IS RACING!!

GO TROY!!

PS: Yeah you can tell I love my bikes.. although currently bikeless after selling my 2000 GSX-R 750. Had to pay for the BM somehow..

[EEE21M]

Glowth I totally agree with you, I would rather watch the new format 125's 250's and now the 500 2 strokes and 1000cc 4 strokes. How good is Rossi??? I missed the SBC last night, the gf was over
I don't like the fact now that in F1 passing only seems to ahppen when someones tyres are going off, the fuel load in lightening or someone's car has died. Because of the wings on the car they can't get close to each other in corners because the dirty air from the car in front causes them to lose downforce and have to drop back a little, don't even get me started on traction control
They should give them back slicks, cut the wing size down by half and it would be nice if they would ban traction control and automatic gearboxes but at the end of the day F1 it the pinacle of motorsport technology and it will end up getting to a point where the cars wont need a driver.

[glowth]

Originally posted by EEE21M
Glowth I totally agree with you, I would rather watch the new format 125's 250's and now the 500 2 strokes and 1000cc 4 strokes. How good is Rossi??? I missed the SBC last night, the gf was over
I don't like the fact now that in F1 passing only seems to ahppen when someones tyres are going off, the fuel load in lightening or someone's car has died. Because of the wings on the car they can't get close to each other in corners because the dirty air from the car in front causes them to lose downforce and have to drop back a little, don't even get me started on traction control
They should give them back slicks, cut the wing size down by half and it would be nice if they would ban traction control and automatic gearboxes but at the end of the day F1 it the pinacle of motorsport technology and it will end up getting to a point where the cars wont need a driver.

I'm actually working from home and have the WSB on fox at the moment. Both races right from the start Baylis (Ducati), Hodgson (Ducati) and Edwards (Honda) battling it out swapping positions right until the very end. This is awesome racing...

Oh and the v-twin sounds...

[EEE21M]

Fox sports 1 or 2?

[glowth]

Fox 2... race 2 is on.. these guys have swapped position about 40 times..

Love this track (Monza) makes for great racing