Not what you drive, but how you drive it...

PBR · #1 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 12:17 PM

Went to the Glen last week, and took some footage. The car in front is my buddy in his Mazda Protege (stock power, street tires, only shock + springs). Me and another buddy following w/the camera in a '94 Miata.

YouTube - Mazda Protege passing a Porsche 944 at Watkins Glen

Look for the pass on the 944 at 2:25

austra · #2 (**permalink**) 11-05-2007, 07:24 PM

lol good pass . i know how it feels to pass whats is supose to be a much better (faster lapping car) then what your driving. you wouldnt believe how many sti and evos amoung other car i would pass with my stock auto 328i it was fun.

philsans5 · #3 (**permalink**) 11-09-2007, 02:54 PM

y'know, if you take a shallow entry into the bus stop you don't need brakes until you're in the busstop...

that was good driving for sure!

PBR · #4 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by philsans5

y'know, if you take a shallow entry into the bus stop you don't need brakes until you're in the busstop...

that was good driving for sure!

wait, what do you mean you don't need to brake until you're in the busstop? I mean, it's at the end of the back straight. So isn't it threshold brake until turn in, and then back on the gas as soon as you're in the stop (and now headed left to exit)?

philsans5 · #5 (**permalink**) 11-12-2007, 10:51 AM

It depends. Especially in a race/ qualify session. It's friggin SCARY to do but if you r trying to make a pass, hold off/ block a pass or just trying to get that last tenth you can lift at the 2 mark, come in on the right (all the way) bang right wheels off curb, then catch your rear left wheel on the curb in the bus stop to launch the back of the car. You have to be braking just before the second curbs. Plus it will scare the poop out of the guy behind you and he will think twice before attempting a pass. I really don't recomend this in a school but try it slowly and build up to it more and more to try something new. DON'T HURT YOUR CAR!!
I'm entering the bus stop at 145ish mph, but the gearing was already topped at 153 before the first (800 ft mark I think) brake marker. Topping 160 next year!

PBR · #6 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 06:08 AM

Wow... that is really interesting. I'm probably hitting 130 at best, but I haven't really tried to carry speed properly through turn 1, 2 and into the esses. I'm still trying to get comfortable with slowing from 125-130 to 70ish. Not something I get to practice on the street.

My friend (the one driving the Protege in the vid) hits about 145 in his 3000GT VR-4 (gutted, mild-upgrades) at the end of the back straight.

Do you know if any of the spec Miata guys use the lift and brake in the bustop technique?

Highboosted · #7 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 07:30 AM

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Wow... that is really interesting. I'm probably hitting 130 at best, but I haven't really tried to carry speed properly through turn 1, 2 and into the esses. I'm still trying to get comfortable with slowing from 125-130 to 70ish. Not something I get to practice on the street.

My friend (the one driving the Protege in the vid) hits about 145 in his 3000GT VR-4 (gutted, mild-upgrades) at the end of the back straight.

Do you know if any of the spec Miata guys use the lift and brake in the bustop technique?

BWAHAHAHAHA. I just realized your buddies with Clint and Noah. Small world.

I can't believe what they do to their beaters, it's amazing.

PBR · #8 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 08:21 AM

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BWAHAHAHAHA. I just realized your buddies with Clint and Noah. Small world.

I can't believe what they do to their beaters, it's amazing.

Yup, my name is Bo. I'm Noah's roomate actually. Who are you?

Noah sold his Sentra and picked up a Saturn beater~ it's terrifying to drive.

Clint just finished a cross-country trip from Seattle and picked up a beater Miata. I think he's in the midst of prepping the Protege for ice racing.

Highboosted · #9 (**permalink**) 11-13-2007, 04:22 PM

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Yup, my name is Bo. I'm Noah's roomate actually. Who are you?

Noah sold his Sentra and picked up a Saturn beater~ it's terrifying to drive.

Clint just finished a cross-country trip from Seattle and picked up a beater Miata. I think he's in the midst of prepping the Protege for ice racing.

I'm Chris (not THAT Chris) from 3Si.org (3000GT board). I don't actually know Clint, Noah, Chris, or Henry personally, but we've met on the boards. I'm the crazy guy who lights brakes on fire, don't know if they'd remember me or not.

I'm familiar with the "Pansy Patrol", so a story about roadracing a beater Protege sticks out to me as a definate Clint thing.

SketchyD · #10 (**permalink**) 11-15-2007, 10:41 PM

y'all were bombin thru those curves. makes me miss my protege

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Struggly · #11 (**permalink**) 11-24-2007, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Highboosted

I'm Chris (not THAT Chris) from 3Si.org (3000GT board). I don't actually know Clint, Noah, Chris, or Henry personally, but we've met on the boards. I'm the crazy guy who lights brakes on fire, don't know if they'd remember me or not.

I'm familiar with the "Pansy Patrol", so a story about roadracing a beater Protege sticks out to me as a definate Clint thing.

Well hello Chris, we meet again.

I'm glad to see that people on the internet associate my name with such upstanding and glamorous acts as beater Protege racing.

Clint

Highboosted · #12 (**permalink**) 11-24-2007, 08:24 PM

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Well hello Chris, we meet again.

I'm glad to see that people on the internet associate my name with such upstanding and glamorous acts as beater Protege racing.

Clint

Your a hero to us all, lol. Reminds me of my days roadracing an old SE-R with a $0 budget. Paying the fee's with favors, duct tape "hood pins", you know.