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Old 04-16-2004, 04:26 PM
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Question your camber plates

I assume dedicated track cars will have spherical bearing varieties, but for street cars or street/track setups is a spherical bearing too much vibration?

I have KMACs right now and they're comfy enough but I think the bearings are now shot again so I should probably get something else. However I've been told sphericals are too much for street cars and won't last as long because they're not designed for street stress... GC's "Hybrid" is still a spherical but with a dampening pad of some sort. Turner & TCK both have track designs..

So, what's everyone using for camber plates?
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Old 04-16-2004, 04:37 PM
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Spherical bearings don't much like salt and road grime. It's just something to keep in mind if you run the car year round.

The new Motorforce units look interesting. They use a larger bearing than most and are $100 less than GC's mounts.

http://www.motor-force.com/camberplates.html
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Old 04-16-2004, 04:54 PM
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I'd heard one other person suggest Motor Force... certainly a reasonable design philosophy... I would just hate to be a guinnea pig for something like that... although maybe...


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That's a good point. They're still pretty new, but look to be a new twist on a fairly conventional design.

They look to have more steel in the than the GC units which are mostly aluminum from what I've seen. That's not a good or bad thing really, just something different.
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they look very similar to GC, maybe too similar

If you don't want the HVH on soild bearing plates, i'd say the GC's, or maybe try HIOPs. I know someone running these and he is really happy with them. About -3.5 max camber.

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The new Motorforce units look interesting. They use a larger bearing than most and are $100 less than GC's mounts.
Matthew, they are really only $40 cheaper. With the Motor-Force plates you have to buy Upper Spring Perches for $60. So 360 vs 400.
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Ohhhhhhhhh okay.

I was wondering how they got around the whole universal plate deal. The ID on the bearing looked a little big to me...
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I've got an E30, so this might not count, but I have the GC ones. Paired w/ H&R coilovers the ride is very tolerable, borderline good
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I'm using GC Hybrids. No complaints.
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I'm using GC Hybrids. No complaints.
I was all set to get their hybrids, when I found out they don't make hybrid spring perches for 60mm springs...

I just may end up with the Motor-Force plates.
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max, if you're looking to get camber and still use non-race springs (no perch), you may just want to swap your left and right stock camber plates. that should give you around 3 degrees.

if you're looking to use the 2.5" race springs, get the full race g/c plates. i daily drove the car for 3 months with that setup and we drive it to all the events in california (i'm in seattle) and everything is fine. you just have to clean and lube them every once in awhile.
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I have the Hiop camber plates and am very happy with them
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As it turns out, my KMACs are still okay... That rattling around I was hearing was a toasted endlink! Turner replaced both endlinks with adjustable ones (don't know why I didn't do that last year!) so they could preload the swaybar properly.

Now that my needs aren't quite as imminent... I don't know about the HIOP plates, so I'll take a look at those... as well as the MotorForce ones... once they have something ready for my 60mm springs. I s'pose I'd still consider the GC ones as well, based on the feedback here. Thanks for all the info.
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