new slicks from dunlop, might try them out.

[LITEWAITM3]

Haha, well it was not at you, it was at Stupid dunlop, GET YOUR SHIT IN ORDER DUNLOP!

On a side note, I got a bunch of scrubs to run, including some dunlops I'm going to try out. However I doubt I'll use them more then once. They require a LOT of camber, and I'll already be running more then -4, so I'll stick with the yok's. But I'll try the dunlops since I already bought a set for cheap and they should grip pretty well.

[Dado]

G&W hooked me up with a set of hoosiers 245/40/18 for free. I will be trying them out next weekend.

[LITEWAITM3]

What kind of hoosiers, slicks? What compound?

Are they new or scrubs? You can get yok and dunlop scrubs for $50-75, and for your application with getting the car setup, it would be perfect.

Forewarning you though, YOU WILL NEED TO CHANGE YOUR SUSPENSION SETUP CONSIDERABLY FOR SLICKS. You will get a veyr poor result with running them with street camber/caster/toe, and you will need to dial in the kw's,add some big sways, etc.

[Dado]

slicks, r compound. SGS?

[spa12ks]

sorry to go off topic..but...

dado do you run stock connecting rods?? if not what do you use?

[LITEWAITM3]

Ok, just to Clarify, Dot-R's are not slicks. Slicks have different compounds and act much differently. They may LOOK similar, but they are considerably different then a full slick. Once you drive them, you will notice it right away. It has to do with yield grip levels, and the way it tell you what its doing. Slicks have a higher griplevel, but also drop instantly, they wont give you much warning. Street oriented, and most Dot-r's will let you know a bit about when its going to let loose.
GSGS should be good for you... you might need some massive rear tires to get the power down


This is a Dot-r from Hoosier


And this is a slick


And this is the compound chart for hoosiers, so you can see what is what. In this cold weather its going to be tough to get grip from a med-hard tire.

[scottn2retro]

Originally posted by LITEWAITM3
WHy would clubracers not use slicks . . .

For stock classes, only DOT R-comps are allowed.


Hey Dado, if you ever see or get word of that Dunlop DOT R-comp again, would like to know more about it.

[Dado]

I got a brochure of that dunlop tire. Call sasco sports and and they will send you a free brochure.

Litewaitm3 I am positive I got a slick, it looks just like the second picture you posted. I will get some pictures of it tomorrow. G&W doesn't use dot tires

[LITEWAITM3]

Cool, then you'll really need to add a lot of camber, and change your shock settings, and spring rates. Car might handle like crap with your current setup(might=very good chance).

Whats G&W stand for, and where are they located?

[Matthew C Smith]

Agreed, what kind of numbers are you running for the suspension?

I know you've got a decent set of dampers, but what are the spring rates?

[LITEWAITM3]

On the KW V3's they can probably handle a decent spring rate, but they won't compare to a JRZ/protrac/Moton damper. They are a street oriented shock design, with higher dampening rates, and the samw construction as the other V series.


Its depends on the track, and it'll range from 600 to 1500 really. Most bmw club guys are using 5-6" springs.

[Dado]

Originally posted by LITEWAITM3

Whats G&W stand for, and where are they located?

not sure how you haven't heard about them. They have done really well in the 24 hour races and one of their prototypes runs an M5 motor built by PTG.

http://www.gandwmotorsports.com/

[caracas_e30]

yeah i was about to say that G&W would never run DOT R's on their porsche cup cars and all the other cars in their garages....

The slicks we received came off a car that blew up.

[LITEWAITM3]

So they are scrubs?

The dunlops should be good, but you will need some serious camber to get the best out of them, and a good heat cycle if they have not bene scrubbed yet.

Just a forewarning if you have not used slicks. You are used to being able to keep a big slip angle with street tires and have them give you great feedback on when they will start to lose grip. Slicks will have a higher grip level, but they won't tell you much before they go. They will just let loose and you're ass with be grass.

[Dado]

I guess I will be cutting a lot of grass this coming weekend. I should bring a spare lip