Cooper S's are fast....ask me how I know.

E30 Stu · #1 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 03:26 AM

Well, for a while, I made accusations that an E30 318is (with a chip, and properly driven) could roll with a Cooper S.

These accusations were proven DEAD WRONG!
I posted this under the E30 board, so I thought I would do so here as well.

I was minding my own biz on the highway when one pulls up to me, I noticed the front scoop so I new it had a blower. The guy gave the throttle a little nudge..."whew, here we go"....

Back to 3rd gear at about 5500 and I am wide open, he got an instant jump on me, 6900, 4th gear. Approaching about 105, abslutely amid the powerband and this guy is WALKING.......GOODBYE! Took it to about 7000 in 4th then drilled the brakes.

No deal, couldn't catch him. Thoughts? Well, considering the rate he walked me, and the rate E30 325i's walk me (at those speeds), it's gonna take an S14 to catch one of these puppies. They move. Fortunately, the guy gave a thumbs up. Or maybe the thumbs up was his response to reading my front euro plate (OVERSTEER) considering he was IN FRONT OF ME THE WHOLE TIME!

Oh well, can't wait for the M50....

DDD · #2 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 12:16 PM

Yeah, they haul ass.

When I was test driving one I had it at 95mph in 5th gear with some revs left to go. Not sure what the RPMs were, but I slammed it in 6th for the hell of it and then backed off.

The top speed (limited) is 135mph!!

Glad to hear you had some fun!!

MarcusSanDiego · #3 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 02:07 PM

Dave, we are having a lot of fun in our MCS. We've been getting some good kills lately. I think people really underestimate the power and light weight of this car.

My wheels and suspension stuff are now on order -- should be about the beginning of the year when I get it. All I can say is the new wheels weigh 15-16 lbs. each. Man, that is so much lighter than the current 25-pound bricks I have on there now.

The car should really move when I get the new goodies.

Meanwhile, I can't wait til you get Darth Vader.

Take care.

E30 Stu · #4 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 02:53 PM

Has anyone on here weighed their MSC? My E30 is 2580 (with a big-case diff), and should be around 2700 with the M50 engine.

Coopers cant be more than 2300. Anyone?

MarcusSanDiego · #5 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 04:26 PM

Stu, I haven't weighed mine yet, but I suspect it's right around 2600 and change.

I'm hoping the drop in rim weight will make a significant difference to the performance of my car. Going from 25lbs per rim to 16lbs. Plus, I am going from run flat tires (which are bricks) to performance tires (which should be lighter).

Take care.

E30 Stu · #6 (**permalink**) 10-22-2002, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by MarcusSanDiego
Stu, I haven't weighed mine yet, but I suspect it's right around 2600 and change.

I'm hoping the drop in rim weight will make a significant difference to the performance of my car. Going from 25lbs per rim to 16lbs. Plus, I am going from run flat tires (which are bricks) to performance tires (which should be lighter).

Take care.

2600!!!!!! wow, thats a lot more than i expected.

Yea, light rims should help out a ton. Are there any aftermarket performance parts avail for them yet?

MarcusSanDiego · #7 (**permalink**) 10-23-2002, 03:07 AM

Stu, the aftermarket performance parts are slow in coming -- but they are coming.

I'd like to see some of these performance parts go on OTHER cars before I start putting them on my car, though. I'd rather have them be guinea pigs, if you know what I mean.

Take care.

ayton · #8 (**permalink**) 10-24-2002, 05:03 AM

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Originally posted by MarcusSanDiego
Dave, we are having a lot of fun in our MCS. We've been getting some good kills lately. I think people really underestimate the power and light weight of this car.

My wheels and suspension stuff are now on order -- should be about the beginning of the year when I get it. All I can say is the new wheels weigh 15-16 lbs. each. Man, that is so much lighter than the current 25-pound bricks I have on there now.

The car should really move when I get the new goodies.

Meanwhile, I can't wait til you get Darth Vader.

Take care.

my friend fit 17 inch OZ superleggerras to his with performance tires and saved about 100 lbs over stock set up.

Rob ITR1035 · #9 (**permalink**) 10-24-2002, 02:28 PM

Miniusa.com quote the MCS at 2678 unladed, which i guess is dry weight. fun fun cars.

E30 Stu · #10 (**permalink**) 10-24-2002, 02:35 PM

HOLY SHIT!!!!!

I just saw the specs on the Mini website, look at the ratios on the Cooper S tranny!!

1st- 11.4
2nd- 7.1
3rd- 5.4
4th- 4.4
5th- 3.6
6th- 2.9

WHOA!!!!!!!!!! SHORT! Granted it does have a 2.7 final....

tylerblue · #11 (**permalink**) 10-25-2002, 02:36 PM

11.4 in 1st!!! Holy Christ!!!!!

TomM · #12 (**permalink**) 10-25-2002, 03:22 PM

Yeah, you could get by not using 1st at all. It almost feels slow in 1st.

E30 Stu · #13 (**permalink**) 10-26-2002, 10:16 AM

i just realized, those ratios are multiplied by the axle gear.

Kyle K. · #14 (**permalink**) 10-26-2002, 05:03 PM

Whoa now..... whats with the HUGE difference in the gearing of the MC and MCS?

Look at these MC numbers compared to those from the MCS!!

1st:3.417
2nd:1.947
3rd:1.333
4th:1.054
5th:0.846

Jesus holy mother...... so much for eventually droppin in a 6 spd from the MCS

GaryE30 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-27-2002, 02:51 PM

Ayton,
do you have any pics of the superleggeras on the car or does he? if so i would love to see them. Thanks- GaryE30