Hi all just a few E28? and pics.

[Kaotiq]

Are those E39 M5 wheels on your E28 ?

17's 18's ?

Cheers,
Iain

[Kaotiq]

Lucky for you there are a lot of good 6ers in the US, if you want some pointers PM me, if I don't know I can point you in the right direction.

Cheers,
Iain.

[Calypso34]

6er's are probably plentiful in the US compared to Australia, but I will tell you that they are not easy to find. It was a rare car to begin with, and 20 years of car age in America usually sends most of them to blocks or junkyards, especially considering 1980's BMWs penchant for rust...

Plus, you guys down there get Euro-bumpered cars, we have to deal with the diving boards on all of our '80's BMWs here in the States!!! I was once insane enough to actually seriously consider spending the loot to do the Euro-bumper conversion on an E30 I had... on the E24, the US bumpers look like absolute shit....


If I had unlimited means, I'd be picking up all my vintage BMWs in Japan, where you can surf the internet and pick up mint low-mileage 2000CS's, 3.0CS's, 2002's, M5's, M6's, Alpinas, and so on.

[Calypso34]

off topic, but a few nice vintage Bimmers I found in a quick search through Yahoo! Japan used listings:

2002 Turbo for about US$15K (this would be easily importable to the US)
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...0000W185A47511

Iding Power Stage 3 635CSi, $20K
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...1000G081001509

Nide E28 M5:
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...1000I077009859

Iding Power 2.5L E30 M3:
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...1000W186D02525

Uber-clean white M6, about $18K, 91,000km on the clock
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...1000B078000115

E30 M3 in my favorite color:
http://usedcar.autos.yahoo.co.jp/det...1000I077009363

Ultra-clean first-gen Alpina B7S Turbo (!!!!!!):
http://page10.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/m17404873
Alpina B10:
http://page5.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/e48345203

CSL-bumpered 3.0CS in a strange color:
http://page6.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/f26339070

Twin-carbed 3.0CS, ultra clean, 87K km, approx $16K buy it now price:
http://page9.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/k22277947

What I love about Japanese used cars is that they all seem to come with goodies already on them, and they're all period-correct, high quality pieces. You wouldn't beleive how many used E34's are on Yahoo Japan right now with full Schnitzer catalogs on them...

[badboybarge]

Originally Posted by Kaotiq

Are those E39 M5 wheels on your E28 ?

17's 18's ?

Cheers,
Iain

are you talkin about my E28? if so yeah E39 M5 replicas, 225 all round

barge

[Kaotiq]

Originally Posted by Calypso34

6er's are probably plentiful in the US compared to Australia, but I will tell you that they are not easy to find. It was a rare car to begin with, and 20 years of car age in America usually sends most of them to blocks or junkyards, especially considering 1980's BMWs penchant for rust...

Have a look at http://www.bmwcoupe.nu/e24/production_numbers.html the aussie (635) cars are the two rows above the 635 USA numbers, we got 328 635s (and only 58 manuals), you guys got 13002 635s + 1767 M6s sheesh.

I don't know how many 633csi's we got down under, but I do remember seeing them at various points in time.

But at least in Aus we don't get much snow so the roads aren't salted and its dry so rust is minimised.

Originally Posted by Calypso34

Plus, you guys down there get Euro-bumpered cars, we have to deal with the diving boards on all of our '80's BMWs here in the States!!! I was once insane enough to actually seriously consider spending the loot to do the Euro-bumper conversion on an E30 I had... on the E24, the US bumpers look like absolute shit....

Have to agree about the bumpers, they are hideous what sort of money are you looking at to replace them with something more pleasing to the eye ?

Originally Posted by Calypso34

If I had unlimited means, I'd be picking up all my vintage BMWs in Japan, where you can surf the internet and pick up mint low-mileage 2000CS's, 3.0CS's, 2002's, M5's, M6's, Alpinas, and so on.

Does RHD present a problem for you ? Here we are RHD so getting a car from japan is less of a hassle (and to get registration in my state the car must be RHD) but some things still need to be changed to met our regulations. One of the aussie guys on here imported an E34 M5 from japan, not sure what he had to do, each Australian state has slightly different rules.

I've seen a few E30 M3s converted LHD to RHD, looks like an utter bitch of a job, not an undertaking to consider lightly.

Cheers,
Iain.

[Kaotiq]

Originally Posted by badboybarge

are you talkin about my E28? if so yeah E39 M5 replicas, 225 all round

barge

Sure was mate

What's the colour ? Polaris Silver ?

Looks great in your signature pic .

Cheers,
Iain.

[badboybarge]

thanx mate

it was resprayed early last year and i sprayed it the original polaris silver with a really light pearl of estoril blue, looks really great on certain arvo's

barge

[Calypso34]

Originally Posted by Kaotiq

Have a look at http://www.bmwcoupe.nu/e24/production_numbers.html the aussie (635) cars are the two rows above the 635 USA numbers, we got 328 635s (and only 58 manuals), you guys got 13002 635s + 1767 M6s sheesh.

I don't know how many 633csi's we got down under, but I do remember seeing them at various points in time.

But at least in Aus we don't get much snow so the roads aren't salted and its dry so rust is minimised.

I've heard the 633CSi is less desirable among E24's, right?
I actually grew up in Brisbane during the '80's, lived on the beach... saw many many cars succumb to rust. A lot of rust we see in America on vintage Bimmers is from water sitting in trunks and stuff in the rainier areas..

The car scene in America is so different; guys over here buy more cars than we can handle or need because we usually have the space to park them, and then cars get neglected. I kind of feel like that has been the fate of most 6ers over here.
M6 prices in America are ridiculous because they're so rare.. $20K for something passable...

Have to agree about the bumpers, they are hideous what sort of money are you looking at to replace them with something more pleasing to the eye ?

I forgot how much those Euro bumper conversions cost, but I'm sure we wouldn't get away wth doing one properly, including Euro lower fascias and stuff for less than $1000, and is probably more in the area of $2000 in reality. That's what some of these cars, like early E30s, cost in the first place.

Does RHD present a problem for you ? Here we are RHD so getting a car from japan is less of a hassle (and to get registration in my state the car must be RHD) but some things still need to be changed to met our regulations. One of the aussie guys on here imported an E34 M5 from japan, not sure what he had to do, each Australian state has slightly different rules.

I've seen a few E30 M3s converted LHD to RHD, looks like an utter bitch of a job, not an undertaking to consider lightly.

Cheers,
Iain.

We can register and import RHD cars as vintage/collectors cars, with low or no federalization fees, if they are over 20 years old I think. Most people don't speak enough Japanese or have the connections in Japan for us to see many people bring vintage Japanese cars to the States, although I'm sure lots of guys would love some of those 1970 Skyline 2000 GT-R's and 240Z's and G-Noses but don't know how to go about getting them.

I didn't know that Australian importation required RHD cars; I remember seeing people bring Fieros and Jeeps to Australia back when I was a kid so I figured there might be loopholes. My parents once had friends who imported a Jag from the UK in the '80's, set up a picnic in the harbor on the day it was supposed to come in off the boat, and then sat there drinking wine with friends as they watched the Jag accidentally fall off the pallet and fall in Brisbane harbor!!!

Finding vintage RHD BMWs is tough; the Japanese have been driving LHD BMW's and other German cars all along, and still do. Only the models with tiny little engines make it to Japan inR RHD form, like 525i's and 3 series cars.

[CleanAzzE30z]

badboybarge- I still love your car.

[Kaotiq]

Originally Posted by Calypso34

I've heard the 633CSi is less desirable among E24's, right?

Yeah, the E24 had a long production run from '76 thru to '89 so there were models that came and went, the 633 was made from 76 to 81 for the rest of the world and 78 to 84 for the US & Japan (?).

There were several models, 630CS, 633CSi, 635CSi, M635CSi (AKA M6) & a Europe ony (?) 628CSi.

Early cars were E12 based & later ones E28 based, the E28 cars are IIRC 150 kg lighter. (The Early ones BMW was worried about US roll over crash tests).

So a 633 is down on power and a tad heavier, also I think they had a 3 speed auto or 4 speed manual, when the 635s had a 4 speed auto or one of two 5 speed manuals.

Originally Posted by Calypso34

I actually grew up in Brisbane during the '80's, lived on the beach... saw many many cars succumb to rust. A lot of rust we see in America on vintage Bimmers is from water sitting in trunks and stuff in the rainier areas..

Put any car by the beach and the salt air will ensure nature takes its course

If the water drainage holes fill up they will also rust pretty bad, but if maintained these things can be made to last a hell of a long time.

Originally Posted by Calypso34

The car scene in America is so different; guys over here buy more cars than we can handle or need because we usually have the space to park them, and then cars get neglected. I kind of feel like that has been the fate of most 6ers over here.

I guess that in one way the rarity of the E24 here made people for the main part take care of them, they found their way into the hands of enthusiasts who are prepared to do what is needed to look after them.

I shudder to think what mine must have cost new, the base 635CSi in aus was AUS$109,000 & mine had the optional close ratio manual, M-Technic Bodykit & Suspension, must have cost a pretty penny and at a time with high interest rates.

Originally Posted by Calypso34

M6 prices in America are ridiculous because they're so rare.. $20K for something passable...

We never actualy had any M635CSi's imported by BMW Australia, so all the ones you see are private imports, but they tend to be ~AUS$50K and you have to know the right people to even hear of one being for sale.

Originally Posted by Calypso34

We can register and import RHD cars as vintage/collectors cars, with low or no federalization fees, if they are over 20 years old I think. Most people don't speak enough Japanese or have the connections in Japan for us to see many people bring vintage Japanese cars to the States, although I'm sure lots of guys would love some of those 1970 Skyline 2000 GT-R's and 240Z's and G-Noses but don't know how to go about getting them.

I didn't know that Australian importation required RHD cars; I remember seeing people bring Fieros and Jeeps to Australia back when I was a kid so I figured there might be loopholes. My parents once had friends who imported a Jag from the UK in the '80's, set up a picnic in the harbor on the day it was supposed to come in off the boat, and then sat there drinking wine with friends as they watched the Jag accidentally fall off the pallet and fall in Brisbane harbor!!!

Well Importation & Registration are different matters, importation is regulated by the federal govt, registration is a state matter, so it varies from state to state, I'm from NSW and along with Victoria we probably have the strictest rules for rego in the country, Qld is much more free and easy in that respect, so that probably explains it.

The NSW RTA (Roads & Traffic Authority) like to regulate everything & many of the regulations make little or no sense (there was a thread in the Aussie subforum about the regulations re what cars new drivers can drive, its pretty crazy).

Originally Posted by Calypso34

Finding vintage RHD BMWs is tough; the Japanese have been driving LHD BMW's and other German cars all along, and still do. Only the models with tiny little engines make it to Japan inR RHD form, like 525i's and 3 series cars.

Well can only speak from what I've seen, but the M5 that was brought in was RHD and Im sure the japan spec E24s were kind of a RHD US spec.

I'd better head off to work

Cheers,
Iain.

[euro96]

Originally Posted by CleanAzzE30z

MAF conversion is one of the best, if not the best non-internal mods you can do to cars with an AFM. One must pay to play. If you convert from a panel filter/airbox setup to a cone filter you will get a bad ass sound, but to be done correctly it should be heat shilelded competently and either way, its not that big a difference, some throttle response and good sound.

is this the same as this from BMP?
http://www.bmpdesign.com/product-exe...arch_model/102

and after reading that thread off the 6er site, is it beneficial or not to run a MAF swap with a chip like JC or DINAN, Turner, etc..?? or would they confuse eachother...

[P4g4nite]

That MAF thing has me intruiged I found a good place selling kits for BMW's including us older models if anybody was interested.
http://www.splitsec.com/index.html
Also has some stuff for tuning fuel maps.

[Kaotiq]

Originally Posted by euro96

is this the same as this from BMP?
http://www.bmpdesign.com/product-exe...arch_model/102

Looks like the same thing.

Originally Posted by euro96

and after reading that thread off the 6er site, is it beneficial or not to run a MAF swap with a chip like JC or DINAN, Turner, etc..?? or would they confuse eachother...

Think about the function of the AFM/MAF, it just measures airflow as an input to the ECU, the MAF is a more free flowing meter, the only real hassle is going to be calibrating the output of the MAF.

The difference between a MAF & the factory AFM is going to be better throttle response with the MAF as you don't have any physical parts moving to measure the airflow.

The throttle mapping change shouldn't matter so long as the output from the MAF is in the same range as the AFM and the output values map closely enough.

Cheers,
Iain.

[CTM3]

my 86