-40 degrees air directly to air intake

[///M Jefey]

what would a refrigerated intake pushin 0 degres to as cold as NEGATIVE 40 degrees do for the engine, any large HP gains due to the air soo comressed and the larger amount of fuel being brought in?

[JMai22]

isn't that wat nitrous is?? that would be like driving with nitrous on ALL the time right?

[bimmerkaz]

or just come up to Canada and it's like driving on NOS all day long...heheh

[ianv]

i would think that the power lost in trying to refridgerate air wouldnt make up for the power gained in more air getting to the engine, also nitrous, to my knowledge works as a combustable, just like gasoline or octane boosters and alchohol injectors, it is injected into the cylinder and because of its high intensity of combustion creates a larger explosion mixed with gasoline rather than just gasoline, which leads to your engine working even harder and creating fairly large gains in hp for as long as you decide to mix nitrous in, but this also leads to damage to engines that arent strong or meant for being pushed this hard.

correct me if i am completely wrong.

[Ghettoraid]

Ford is using a similar technology in their new Lightning... (or...at least.. in the concept)

Basically it uses the AC system to super-chill a bit of air... shoots it into the loop, and its a burst of 50hp.

Ford guys'll have to stop by to confirm or deny that but I'm fairly certain thats a reliable source... (either popular science orrr.... something on tv)

[ianv]

i guess ford could be working to get that to work, but it seems that if they could get that much more hp that easily (simply re-routing some of the air conditioning) then more companies would have already done it.

if a manufacturer does perfect it and actually gets those kind of gains, then that would be pretty awesome

[Jaded M3]

Originally posted by bimmerkaz
or just come up to Canada and it's like driving on NOS all day long...heheh

LOL!

[///AlpinePower]

nitrous acts both ways: when expanding from a liquid to a gas, it cools off substantially; it is also combustable. propane acts similarly.

[Bretts02]

lol. ///AlipinePower and ianv. You are both totaly off base. Nitrous oxide simply breaks into two parts when heated to roughly 600 degrees farenheight. It breaks into nitrogen (useless) and oxygen. The fact that there is more oxygen in the cylinder means that you can inject more fuel and have more combustion. Nitrous does cool however, so you had that correct.

[wfu em drei]

My knowledge of nitrous oxide is that it is NOT combustible, but rather as a compact, cooled gas it expands tremendously when heated, allowing a harder combustion stroke on the piston to turn that damned crank. I'm going with Bretts02 on this one.

[///AlpinePower]

Q: Is nitrous oxide flammable?

A: No. Nitrous oxide by itself is non-flammable. However, the oxygen present in nitrous oxide causes combustion of fuel to take place more rapidly.

i'll try to be more accurate next time

[ianv]

i wasnt totally off, i said more combustion which is the basic idea.

and that was why i said correct me if i am wrong

[///AlpinePower]

Originally posted by ianv
i wasnt totally off, i said more combustion which is the basic idea.

and that was why i said correct me if i am wrong

what ever, he drives a multi-colored car. my car is only one color.

[Ghettoraid]

Originally posted by ianv
i guess ford could be working to get that to work, but it seems that if they could get that much more hp that easily (simply re-routing some of the air conditioning) then more companies would have already done it.

if a manufacturer does perfect it and actually gets those kind of gains, then that would be pretty awesome

It's definitely not that simple. It's a separate unit really... a big 10"x8" cylinder.... I think it functions like an aftercooler...

[ianv]

you said it uses the ac unit to chill some air and then "shoots" it into the "loop".
i just inferred that you mean used the ac to cool air then re route it into the intake, maybe i misread what you wrote.