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Old 04-30-2003, 09:13 PM
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Ok guys, so today i was making a left hand turn at the intersection of california and marengo ave. on my way to get some food with 2 of my buddies in the car. I take the turn, and take the immediate right, onto the street where lucky boy (the resturante is) and take a left into their parking lot.

As i pull in, i notice there's a pig behind me, looking like he wants a lucky boy doughnut My buddies and i pull into a space and get out of the car. As i get out, i notice the pig just sitting in the lot behind my car. im like wtf? i didnt do anything wrong. The car clock says 4:09. i lock the car and start walking into the resturante and the pig says, hold it right there.

So im like, whats up officer? He asks if its my car etc, and for my license and registration. i get the shit (the day before i put my new sticker on thank god!!!) He tells me to wait in the car and takes 10 min looking over my shit. he then walks back to my car, asks if i noticed the no left turn from 4-6pm at the california marengo intersection. i say no sir i didnt, when i looked at the light, i was staring directly into the sun so i watched the light not above the intersection, but the one on the left.

He then hands me a ticket for an illegal left turn, and tells me the sign is there because people have a hard time seeing cars with the glare from the sun So im ****ing pissed, thinking i have to go to court and shit cause im still 16 (may 20th is my bday). I was mad and looking over the ticket a few min ago when i noticed something. He wrote the ticket for an illegal left turn from CALIFORNIA EAST BOUND TO SOUTH BOUND ON MARENGO!!!! BWAHHAHAHAHH!!! 2 things are important about that
1) thats a physical impossibility
2) he wrote the ticket for something that didnt happen


What do u think? That should be enough to void it right?

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Old 04-30-2003, 09:24 PM
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I think that it will be tossed out. He wrote the wrong information, so I'm pretty sure that you're in the clear. Hope all goes well!
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Old 04-30-2003, 09:33 PM
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I think that it will be tossed out. He wrote the wrong information, so I'm pretty sure that you're in the clear. Hope all goes well!
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thanks man thats what i was hoping to hear
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Old 04-30-2003, 09:44 PM
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yes, tickets can get thrown out for small technicalities even things such as the officer spelling your name wrong or putting down the wrong address(my brothers friends have gotten off on everything from speeding to dui's on these technicalities, but they were also wealthy with good lawyers), at least up here in WA, but im sure its the same or similar. the way i see it this is a larger technicality.
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Old 04-30-2003, 09:45 PM
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yea not to mention he didnt put my middle intial on the ticket either
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Old 04-30-2003, 10:03 PM
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be careful with THE MAN.

reguardless of the technicality, they can still screw you.

if you want a sure way out. get a cheap laywer. If you use the system, the system will work for you.
Hell, use one of those public attorneys - should work just fine
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Old 04-30-2003, 10:14 PM
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My friend once got a speeding ticket, which according to the ticket, was recieved the day he was born. Way to screw it up gates police!
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haha, i swear, this cop was probably so happy he was going to give a ticket to a kid in a BMW that he forgot what the hell was going on
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Old 04-30-2003, 11:34 PM
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haha, i swear, this cop was probably so happy he was going to give a ticket to a kid in a BMW that he forgot what the hell was going on
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i got a ticket on the first day of my junior year going to lunch. and if that wasn't asshole like enough for the cop to do, he waited to pull me over until i was right in front of the school.
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i got a ticket on the first day of my junior year going to lunch. and if that wasn't asshole like enough for the cop to do, he waited to pull me over until i was right in front of the school.
damn that sux man. seriously cops=gay
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As always my advice is, "get a lawyer". It's better to get off the first time than to go back and appeal which costs you more money.

I am no lawyer and this is not legal counsel.

You should get off due to the technicality however make sure you don't incrimate yourself by saying, "I turned yadda yadda...". Thats why you have a lawyer so he/she can discredit the officer without being asked incriminating questions as I am sure you would be asked if you posed the discrepancy.

Second, what time was it? How does the officer know what time it is? Is the timing device calibrated (his watch)? Is it certified? (air bears have to have calibrated timing systems, cops have calibrated (not!) speedos, laser guns and radar guns are also calibrated). His watch could have been off. Has he adjusted it since then? Does he adjust it to another clock at headquarters or against an atomic clock. NOTE that lots of cops have computers in their cars. The computers (some) download their time from a network device that may connect to a device giving out atomic time. Is this a certified process? Is certification required?

The sign. Are there laws stating the city/state must have a backing bigger than the sign so it's readable even in backlight (like the stop lights have). Take a picture at 3:58pm from about where you sat and take it to court to show you cannot read the sign due to direct sunlight. Take multiple pictures a few feet apart, with different appetures.

Do other intersections in the same city have the same or similar sighs but not on the stoplight area like this one? (ie on a pole in the median, or someplace where it is easier to read in the afternoon? If so you may use that in your argument but the problem is it speculates the reason the sign is there, if you had proof they moved that one due to sun, then you might sway the judge.

Anyway, go in with as much as possible. IMHO the more credible data and evidence you have, the less likely the judge will want to spend the hour arguing for their $86 bucks (or whatever it is). It becomes too costly and that does have some weight.

Note I my experience is from Washington traffic situations, not Cali. Cali is like it's own country sometimes.
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just tell the judge that if the cop could pay enough attention to write the right info he couldn't have been paying attention to you
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I would refer you to my lawer but he doesn't wanna go to Cali. He've won lot's of cases for me and my wife.
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:15 PM
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thanks guys, ive decided im gonna challenge it if its over $100 so ill let you guys know what happens
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