Lexus launches a car to give M3 & RS4 a run for there money.

[///Minh]

lets say if they do invented a more powerful car than m cars..whats the difference its going to make? sure it be faster but its a lexus and you cant compare that to a bimmer, im pretty sure noone is going to buy a lexus n put things in it and take it to the track..very slim chance..as for m cars you can do alot to the exteriors as well as to the engine and its a track car!!!! Lexus=luxury

[audidriver18]

I really love how no where do they mention that it's also a competitor to the New C63. OH wait that's because it's not even a threat to the C63! wierd.......

[///Minh]

exactly..its not a threat to the c63 and the c63 come up short to the m3..does that make any sense at all?

[audidriver18]

Originally Posted by ///Minh

exactly..its not a threat to the c63 and the c63 come up short to the m3..does that make any sense at all?

I'm sorry Sir but not to get in it with you but The new C63 Stomps the New M3 sorry to be the one to tell you.

[audidriver18]

here you go one of many

2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG - First Drive - Motor Trend

[///Minh]

come on shure the c63 will beat the new m3 in top speed and the acceleration is almost the same from 0-100k..but as an overall car..i think the new m3 got the title..as well as being on the track!! sure its a close one but im not shure about the m3 getting stomps!! the best way to compare these to is two have both of them on the track at once and experience hands on!

[audidriver18]

true very true BUT AMG does claim that the motor is very "Unstressed" at 457 HP in fact Mercedes claims that when you buy the car they will tell you how to get it to 580bhp with relative ease. I would really love to see BMW do that. Don't get me wrong I LOVE BMW I own a M3 (and it's not my first) but I don't think that the NEW M is gonna be all that great.

[///Minh]

wow i never heard of that b4..thats insane!! i agreed with u that the new m3 wont be that great..i think the e46 is way better..but if the new m3 do come out with csl..now that is another story..and i have heard rumor that theyr thinking about it.

[e36mmm]

Originally Posted by e36tuner

it leaves them to come out with the new lexus isf trd-s. They should put a supercharger on it and call it a day or maybe a v10 from one of the formula cars. Or they could just stroke it and give it a 6 speed manual tranny.Hopefully they do develop a full sport version of this car.

lol that would be crazy.

[jvcajita]

Originally Posted by BMWBOY

"If Godzilla wore a business suit, this is very likely the car he’d drive to work. The first in a series of specialised “F” cars for Lexus, it’s Japan's answer to Germany's high-performance V8 mid-sizers such as BMW's M3 and Audi’s RS4."

Pics and more info in the link below.

Lexus: F for fired up - Motoring - CARSguide

thats what they said too with the G37 coming out...even the 335i will eat the nissan up...

the F has nothing on the 0-60mi of the m3 at 4.3 secs...according to this article, the F will do 4.9 secs on a 0-100kph...*yawns* now don't get me started with the handling...

[e36tuner]

yeah they really need a sport version of this car.

[325is Style]

guys dont forget BMW's Gtr and CSl installments for the E39 body. plus this is no longer your average 6 cyl. M3. V8's are more fun to super or turbo charge

[///Minh]

Originally Posted by 325is Style

guys dont forget BMW's Gtr and CSl installments for the E39 body. plus this is no longer your average 6 cyl. M3. V8's are more fun to super or turbo charge

yea but ur right bout doing stuff to the v8's but u got to wait at least a year for bmw to fix their problems with the m3, if there is any when they come out.and im pretty shure there are a whole bunch..after that the car should be great and u can do a lot with it!!!

[CraigMakDaddy]

The C63 AMG is not considered to be better than the e92 M3 by any reputable car magazine that I have read. They all say it is superior in power but lacks agility, handling and a feel that you are involved in the driving experience. The steering of the C63 is not as precise as the e92 M3. Also, the C63's steering is far more numb than the M3 despite the fact that the e92 gives less feedback than previous M3's. The C63 AMG is simply a straight line brute force muscle car. Mercedes knows this and did it purposefully because muscle cars are making a serious come back. They decided to focus on power and make it beefy as opposed to agile and involved.

[///Minh]

good job! good explanations bro..i totally agree with u.