Car and driver 2004 issue..

[Midnight Shark]

Has anyone read it yet? (edit: November 2004 issue). It showcases 16 supertuned cars including AA's s/c 2002 m3 witch came out 6th in the sedan class and was actually the slowest car in the 1/4 mile at 13.1 @ 109 trap. All the other cars were in the 11's and 12's.

Now, I have to clean all this drool off my table.

[BMWhartgeM3]

yea didnt represent anything good.

[hammerfang]

the drivier of the m3 must have been really conservative driving it cause it only ran 13.1 in the 1/4, car and driver had their long term 2001 m3 tester hitting 13.1 and it was stock, on the upside they did say the brakes were awsome and that the car worked flawlessly

[Rob ITR1035]

yeah, obviously the car was outclassed in HP, and its total-package-ness couldnt make up, not in this test at least

That Mallet CTS-V is the heat.

[motorsports_3]

The times on all the cars were faster. The radars they used were by satallite and were off by a lot on all the cars they are actually faster. But i still think that is bullshit that the m3 came in 6th.

[JF824]

the M3 was still competing with some ridiculous cars and came in third in the road course. like they said it is a well balanced car and had the best braking time in its class, plus for a car only running 5.5 psi it still came in 3rd in the road course

[JF824]

Originally Posted by hammerfang

the drivier of the m3 must have been really conservative driving it cause it only ran 13.1 in the 1/4, car and driver had their long term 2001 m3 tester hitting 13.1 and it was stock, on the upside they did say the brakes were awsome and that the car worked flawlessly

true...you ever see that guy running a 12.4 in an M3 which supposedly just had pullies in it

[hammerfang]

yea i have the video of that on my comp, he had exhaust, intake, and a chip too but was he on street tires?

[hammerfang]

come to think of it i am going to write a letter to car and driver's backfire section and voice my opinon that their driver and/or equiptment really sucked if they got a stock m3 to do the same 1/4, usually C&D is pretty good, especially when it comes to BMWs but this time i think that they are wrong.

[JF824]

Originally Posted by hammerfang

yea i have the video of that on my comp, he had exhaust, intake, and a chip too but was he on street tires?

im not sure if he was on street tires but he sure jumped on that mustang out of the hole. def write C&D though, that driver must have been babying that clutch

[Yop]

or people could not make excuses for AA, they answered this indepth a few months ago on m3forum, aa even replied say their cars are meant to be every day drivers with a little extra POW not, anything along the lines of these modified corvettes, and vipers. just look up this same subject on there, and theres at least 11pages of shit typed on it

[XiaoNio]

The M3 was in the sedan class and thus competed with an RS6, CTS-V's etc. It did not have to compete against modified corvettes or vipers. That being said, C&D specifically said they wanted modified cars that are in production now, precluding the previous generation M3 which they acknowledge to be much faster when AA tuned. They also recognize that the AA supercharged M3 did not have as much tuning as the E36 M3's or any of it's competitors.

[hammerfang]

i don't care what u say, when i car with 100 more hp then stock and relatively the same power curve has the same 1/4 time as a stock car, then something is wrong, either with the driver, equipment, or car, it just doesn't make sense.

[TEUTONIC]

car and driver is the biggest fag mag ever. if u ever read the dipshits who write in and see the lack of fucking knowledge they have for cars. the shit is stupid. one of them was comparing the for gt to the carrera gt saying that they should cost the same fuck that, there is more technology in the fucking doorhandle on the porsche than the whole piece of retro shit ford gt, fuck the whole ford companyfor that matter. i mean the whole chassis on the carrera gt is carbon fiber, anyway i ranting. but quit buying car and driver they suck if your gonna buy a good american car mag get road and track.

[Siang]

lol teutonic, elitest much?

Even if the time is off on the M3, it was the same driver driving all the cares was it not? So there should be the same difference in each test.