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Old 05-10-2004, 09:17 PM
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Arrow New official 2005 Porsche 911 pics.

I'll reserve my judgements on this one, but tell me what you think.















For the first time since 1977, Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG, Stuttgart, is launching two new 911 models at the same time: the 911 Carrera with a 239 KW (325 BHP), 3.6 litre boxer engine, and the 911 Carrera S, powered by a newly developed 3.8 litre engine, which delivers 261 KW (355 BHP). With torque of 400 Newton meters, the S model surges from zero to 100 kph in 4.8 seconds. The Carrera does this in exactly five seconds. Top speeds for the Carrera and Carrera S are 285 kph and 293 kph respectively. The two 911 models from the 997 series will be launched across Europe on 17 July 2004 (with the exception of the right-hand drive market in Great Britain).

Both 911 models have a newly developed six-speed gearbox and a reworked chassis, which includes active suspension as standard in the S model. For the 911 Carrera, this chassis, called "Porsche Active Suspension Management", can be supplied on request. In the "normal" position, PASM provides a sporty and comfortable balance to the suspension; pressing the "sport" button, however, makes the suspension firmer which enables the car to be driven in a particularly agile and sporty way. In addition to PASM, a further option for both models is sports suspension, which is lower by 20 mm, with a mechanical rear inter-wheel differential lock.

The format of the wheels and tyres has also evolved: the 911 Carrera now has, as standard, 18J x 18 size wheels with 235/40 ZR 18 tyres (front) and 10J x 18 with 265/40 ZR 18 tyres at the rear. The Carrera S is equipped with 19 inch rim/tyres, size 8J x 19, with 235/35 ZR 19 (front axle) and 11J x 19 with 295/30 ZR 19 (rear axle).

The design of the Porsche 911 is a logical continuation of the 911 story, now over 40 years old. The result of the new exterior design – including a wider track and more emphasis on the waist – is a 911 which is even more dynamic, clear, powerful and, at the same time, elegant. Other striking features of the evolutionary design are the new circular headlamps with separate additional headlamps in the nose area, more prominent fenders, dual-arm exterior mirrors, altered seam characteristics and a more aerodynamic rear spoiler.

The basis price for the 911 Carrera is EUR 64,700 and EUR 73,300 for the 911 Carrera S. In Germany, these prices (including VAT and country-requirements) are EUR 75,200 for the Carrera and EUR 85,176 for the Carrera S.
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:20 PM
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judgement reserved, but i love the way they are bringing back the 'real' 911 look with the round headlights and seperate blinkers, but some of the stuff doesnt appear to flow well to me, like the front and rear bumpers
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:22 PM
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:24 PM
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pics no worky
lol well. Both Rob and I can see them. I think it's time to ditch your old 7th grade AOL server and get the real internet.

j/k.
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:26 PM
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lol well. Both Rob and I can see them. I think it's time to ditch your old 7th grade AOL server and get the real internet.

j/k.

whats this AOL you speak of?

no i have cable so wtf wont they work
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:28 PM
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Nice, I like how they brought back the oldschool round headlights, looks more like a porsche to me.... and the front looks pretty similar to the 959, anyone else see that??

The back looks regular to me, but i do like the addition to the 2+2 exhaust
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Maybe I'm just too young, but I think those headlights are just bringing it back a few years. I thought they would progress to a newer, more futuristic look like all the other manufacturers.
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o man, i love it. something looks a bit off on the rear tho
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Old 05-10-2004, 09:54 PM
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. I thought they would progress to a newer, more futuristic look like all the other manufacturers.


look how well thats working out for BMW.......


in a car as steeped in history and heritage as the 911, you need some familar cues.
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Maybe I'm just too young, but I think those headlights are just bringing it back a few years. I thought they would progress to a newer, more futuristic look like all the other manufacturers.
Granted I'm younger than you, but I think they're right for bringing back 993 (I think thats it)-ish lights. It just seems to be more "porsche" to me. Besides, their seems to be somewhat of a retro trend in the industry (ford). Just my $0.02
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Time to bring back the whale tail!
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Not sure if I like it...

The 993 headlights are nice but the tailights and the front bumper are
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I'll say what I said on a Porsche board I visit.
I like the headlights. Hate the taillights (bring back the 930/964/993 style, like they did on some 996 C4S's). Hate the front bumper. Hate the interior (isn't Porsche, it's more... VW. This is a Porsche interior)
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Porsche is slowly caving... like bmw did a long time ago with the "m" cars.. in the 80's m stood for motorsport.. the race car of the group... now M stands for marketing cause it costs about 2x as much as doesn't go fast.. porsche is caving slightly.. they're building a car that can compete with luxury cars and sports cars.. unfortunaly it seems like that is a nice 911 but overall it seems to have lost focus.. bmw's used to be the car that sacrificed speed for comfort and descent road manners.. where 911's were that one step above.. less comfort, less daily convience.. faster and better handling.. now they are focusing to much on broad apeal, comfort and style and no so much on performance... I was disapointed when I raced a new 911 carrera and it was even for the orange car.. I figured they'd be much faster
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