E60 M5 stats and such.

[Kompressor]

Low torque?

[Sulax34]

I know that 4.8 is just a relative number and a prediction, but I'm hoping that its a little conservative.....

[Kompressor]

[zcghost]

BMW has always been conservative with their 0-60 times. Their time for a 330i was 6.4. R&T posted a 5.9 for the sedan and a 5.7 for the coupe.

[krogerBMW]

I like "0-120mph time, which is offically put at 'less than 13.0sec'

Looks like they are taking old F1 v10 and mashing them into the M5

[Jahkesh]

Originally posted by zcghost
BMW has always been conservative with their 0-60 times. Their time for a 330i was 6.4. R&T posted a 5.9 for the sedan and a 5.7 for the coupe.

Thats wierd, both sedan and coupe both weigh the same and have the same engine... how would the coupe be .2 seconds faster?

[E36DJ]

285s in read? Daayum.

That 0-120 time really caught my attention also. What the hell is the 1/4 mile time going to be??? Most cars will hit 1/4 mile by the time they reach 120mph (shit mine does it at 100) YET THE M5 DOES IT IN 13 SECONDS? The 1/4 should be pretty damn close to the 0-120 time I think.

The torque sorta caught my eye too, I find it hard to believe that BMW would be content introducing a new engine with 2 more cylinders that had the same amount of torque, then again it does use a 7 speed tranny so I guess it's more usable.

[X5 Gee]

I'm hearing that it's only coming in SMG .. no manual = no thanks!

[zcghost]

hats wierd, both sedan and coupe both weigh the same and have the same engine... how would the coupe be .2 seconds faster?

They dont weigh exactly the same...

[E36DJ]

Originally posted by X5 Gee
I'm hearing that it's only coming in SMG .. no manual = no thanks!

I don't think a transmission option should sway someone entirely from getting a car they would otherwise want.

How would a 7 speed manual work? I don't think it would, they need SMG; additionally if you are going to say they should throw a 6 speed in there, I think it would be impossible to get the right gearing for that high-rev engine (for 0-60 and top end.)

BESIDES, for the 100,000th time, SMG IS FASTER THAN A MANUAL, and a LOT easier on the clutch (I don't care how good you are, the SMG computer knows exactly how fast the clutch and flywheel are spinning, it virtually eliminates slipping and friction when downshifting.)

At this point, with this technology, the only way a conventional manual will be faster than SMG is if the driver is power shifting (ie. over-reving the engine and letting it slip when he upshifts.. obviously horrible for the clutch.)

[zcghost]

Around a track the SMG will be faster any day of the week. It can shift faster than any normal human can.

[Arthurs]

Sorry for my stupidity but could you explane me please what is SMG... I mean, how does it work? Is it something like steptronic? or is it autotransmission??? I don't get it

[zcghost]

the SMG = Sequential Manual Gearbox. It is still a manual transmission, but like Ferrari's F1 tranny, it has an electrohydraulic clutch that is computer controlled, not by the driver. There are manual and automatic modes, and the shifting is done either by paddles behind the steering wheel or by the shifter on the center console. Shifting is made faster than a person can, and it is an expensive option on most new BMWs. 3 coupes, M3s, 5 series, Z4 3.0....
I might have missed quite a few details but that is what I know.

[Arthurs]

Originally posted by zcghost
I might have missed quite a few details but that is what I know.

Thanks anyway! Now I get it...

[Suneal]

Yes, most of us know that SMG will always be faster, but it sure as hell isn't as much fun!