C6 Corvette infomation. Pics & Engine info.

[Matthew C Smith]

Originally posted by MrPayne
Bob Lutz has implied that their will be a trim level above the Z06 and it will be able to "suck the doors off" the Viper SRT-10 (or Coupe if they make it) or the Ford GT. Hmmm, what could this supervette possibly be?

Let the American power war begin!

[vjlax18]

Originally posted by zcghost
...Obviously someone in the market for a bimmer wont look at a vette, for the same reason someon in the market for a vette wont even wait on a bmw.

Really? I have both....

[krogerBMW]

Originally posted by Matthew C Smith
Let the American power war begin!

More like the automotive industry as a whole... Things are gona get crazy and I like it ...

[Alex Mc]

The new vette won't have a Twin Turbo setup. Come on, thats ridiculous..

The C6 will continue the push-rod design, and will probably be marginally faster than the C5, but dont expect any breakthroughs under the hood. As long as its a push-rod 2-valve head then there isn't going to be any serious progress.

[zcghost]

YEAH, that sounds about right. When do you think we will see some equivalent of VANOS or VTEC on the 'mericans?

IN the next decade maybe?

[///M3DarkSide]

Originally posted by Alex Mc
The new vette won't have a Twin Turbo setup. Come on, thats ridiculous..

The C6 will continue the push-rod design, and will probably be marginally faster than the C5, but dont expect any breakthroughs under the hood. As long as its a push-rod 2-valve head then there isn't going to be any serious progress.

Exactly. Chevy never has used F/I for the corvette (or any of their real performers for that matter) and they never will. Leave the F/I to Lingenfelter and Callaway.
I also I think you're spot on with your understanding of whats going to be under the hood. Although its no longer an LS1, it's still a pushrod. Chevy has already said that much of the drivetrain form the C5 will carry over to the C6. Much like the change from the 1st generation Corvette to the Sting Ray, its "evolutionary not revolutionary" and most of the changes will be in the design.

[MrPayne]

Originally posted by Alex Mc
The new vette won't have a Twin Turbo setup. Come on, thats ridiculous..

The C6 will continue the push-rod design, and will probably be marginally faster than the C5, but dont expect any breakthroughs under the hood. As long as its a push-rod 2-valve head then there isn't going to be any serious progress.

The "SuperVette" as it's now being called might not have a TT setup. However, what's saying it won't have 600hp?

Actually, there will be a breakthrough underneath the hood. GM designed a 3-valve setup for a pushrod engine.

Engine revolution or not, low 12's in a base Vette is definitely possible with the expected power/weight ratio.

[MrPayne]

Originally posted by ///M3DarkSide
Exactly. Chevy never has used F/I for the corvette (or any of their real performers for that matter) and they never will. Leave the F/I to Lingenfelter and Callaway.
I also I think you're spot on with your understanding of whats going to be under the hood. Although its no longer an LS1, it's still a pushrod. Chevy has already said that much of the drivetrain form the C5 will carry over to the C6. Much like the change from the 1st generation Corvette to the Sting Ray, its "evolutionary not revolutionary" and most of the changes will be in the design.

GN/GNX/T-type used FI. Arguably the best engine GM has ever made for a production vehicle.

I've actually heard Lingenfelter might be working on the discussed engine. Also being discussed is McLaren.

Much of the drivetrain will be carried over, initially. I've heard a 6spd auto might soon be going into the car. Corvette engineers are also complaining about the lack of a sequential tranny to use...maybe this will be rectified?

[///M3DarkSide]

Originally posted by MrPayne
The "SuperVette" as it's now being called might not have a TT setup. However, what's saying it won't have 600hp?

Engine revolution or not, low 12's in a base Vette is definitely possible with the expected power/weight ratio.

Its been done.

[MrPayne]

Perhaps I should have said, "The next C6 Vette will most likely be able to hit low 12's regularly due to the expected power/weight ratio. The Z06 will be low-mid 11's."

[MacDubois]

Originally posted by ///M3DarkSide
What I'm saying is that I would hate to see a Twin turbo on a stock corvette it's totally contradicting of what a corvette stands for.

So, what exactly does Corvette stand for? The first two years, it didn't even have a V8, and wasn't particularly fast. And there have been midengined rotary prototypes, not exactly apushrod V8 in standard FR fare.

Shouldn't they just be trying to sell a reasonably fast sports car at a price that the average midlife crisiser(to make up a word) can afford. If they make a stompin twin turbo that those middleaged fellows can aspire too, that is a great way to make sales...and not bad for us that like to go fast.

And whats wrong with the Z06, 5 years ago nobody knew what it was, except the most diehard corvette guys. One year of production, with nothing too special about it, compared to the now legendary C5 Corvettes which are world reknown and feared as being blindingly fast and no-nonsense machines.

As for the ZL-1, I agree with you there, unless they decide to reproduce the aluminum big block, in which case I guess it would be okay.


Anyway, I like the new Vette, I'd never buy one, but thats more of a personal issue. And a horsepower war would be sweet...it has to trickle down to my level sometime...

[Matthew C Smith]

So what's the reasoning behind staying with pushrods? Weight savings? Simplicity? Tradition?

[///M3DarkSide]

Originally posted by MacDubois
So, what exactly does Corvette stand for? The first two years, it didn't even have a V8, and wasn't particularly fast. And there have been midengined rotary prototypes, not exactly apushrod V8 in standard FR fare..

Think about it. The fact that there was no V8 offered in the Corvette for the first two years is an interesting peace of trivia. Why?
Because its not very widely known information. Why?
BECAUSE everyone thinks about a big powerful V8 when they think Corvette. Why?
Because the corvette was almost discontinued in those first few years before they introduced the V8. They have never looked back since. And the corvette has grown into the icon it is today. A fast front-engine, rear-drive car with a big powerful V8.

Yes GM has made the mid-engine prototypes and they have looked into all types of engines, but the simple fact is that people know and like the Corvette how it is and GM isn't going to do anything to mess that up. I think they will eventually move away from the pushrod engine, but I also think a large portion of their customers know the pushrod and enjoy it for what it is. So they need to be wary of that too. They might lose their business.

[///M3DarkSide]

Originally posted by ///M3DarkSide
Exactly. Chevy never has used F/I for the corvette (or any of their real performers for that matter) and they never will. Leave the F/I to Lingenfelter and Callaway.

I have to correct myself. I was walking back from class and remembered that the TransAm (the one and only sports/muscle car to last all the way through the 70's and 80's, I might add) was equipped with a turbo for a special anniversary edition. But as far as I know that is the only exception.

[MrPayne]

Originally posted by Matthew C Smith
So what's the reasoning behind staying with pushrods? Weight savings? Simplicity? Tradition?

I suppose tradition has A LOT to do with it. Weight savings are significant, but i'm not actually sure reciprocating mass is reduced by much (if at all). The biggest convenience of pushrods IMO is the volumetric savings they allow when using large displacement. The pushrod 5.0L V8 in the 5.0 Mustangs is MUCH smaller than the SOHC/DOHC 4.6L V8 in GTs/Cobras. Of course the drawbacks are limitations in high revving and air flow when revving high. Some info about swapping the LS1 into an E36.

http://www.vorshlag.com/E36ProjectBook.asp

http://www.m3supercar.com/v8.html