can front fenders be rolled?

shark328 · #1 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 06:34 AM

I rolled the back to clear my 245 hoosiers, but I have 225 on the front & I need a little more clearance for 245's. The 225's can't handle the power of the vortec. It doesn't look like there is anything to gain in front, and I don't want the plastic wheel wells to fall out. Advice?
thanks
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Dado · #2 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:04 AM

I rolled mine with no problem, it is just the inner lip and if you don't roll it will cut into the tire.

Your other option is Carbon fiber fenders from CDOC which are 1 inch wider.

shark328 · #3 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:14 AM

It doesn't look like it would even help. There isn't much of a lip to begin with.

Dado · #4 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:16 AM

but that little lip is the one that cuts into the tire and if it gets caught you will bend the fender out. When you roll it you can rub your tires against the fender and not worry about losing a chunk of your tires.

shark328 · #5 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:22 AM

This might sound like a stupid question, but do I need the "fender rolling tool" again or is this little lip easy to do with other means?
thanks

Dado · #6 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:30 AM

I would go with the fender rolling tool, that panel is very thin and you can crack the paint very easily. Make sure you use a heat gun.

Stealth · #7 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:37 AM

you can fit 235 no problem up front and no you cant roll the front because there is no lip to roll. how is it that the front wheels cant handle the power?

si666treme · #8 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 07:54 AM

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[i]how is it that the front wheels cant handle the power? [/b]

i was wondering the same thing.

J Clark · #9 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 09:28 AM

ya. same q.

is there not enough stability while accelerating at wot?

Matthew C Smith · #10 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 09:40 AM

I think he's talking about the 245's out back and he still want's to run the same size all the way around. I can't say that I blame him.

The 245's from hoosier are huge, good luck stuffing them in there!

What's the rest of your suspension setup like? What size wheels are you running?

John · #11 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 09:48 AM

I used a bat and the towl, just wedged it under the tire and rolled the car pulling the bat under the fender lifting the whole thing up and out by pushing down on the bat. Granted my 95 is a race car only and I couldn't give a crap if the paint cracked, the car gets repainted all the time. However I also did this on my 99 with zero paint cracking issues, however you'll most likely need to apoxy in your fender liners.

However, depending on what kind of 245s you are running you will have zero luck unless you get either A. Wider fenders, or B. Over 3.5 neg camber. Also if you are running coil overs you'll have to run 12+ mm spacers to fit the 245s.

You'll have no problem fitting 245 Toyo T1s, but you'll need serious camber to fit an bridgestone SO3 or something like a 245 hoosier, both are wide as most 255 tires.

To fit my 245 hoosiers up front + 15mm spacers I have my fenders pulled, and run almost 4 degrees of neg camber up front.

RogueM3 · #12 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 11:52 AM

will i run into any problems putting 235 40 18 all round without a suspension on my 95 m3?

I want to avoid rubbing and am curious whether or not you guys would roll your fenders both front and rear or just rear or nothing at all in this scenario. Thanks.
-Richard

John · #13 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 12:42 PM

You shouldn't have any problems again with the possible exception of the Bridgestone SO3.

Stealth · #14 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 01:02 PM

there is no lip in the front wheel wells. Therefore you cannot roll them.

shark328 · #15 (**permalink**) 10-06-2003, 01:31 PM

I use 235-40-17 Pilot Sports for street & I have been using 245-40 rear & 225-45 front, Hoosiers for autox. I had one of the 245's in front once, by accident & it was rubbing because I found the rubber on the lip at the end of the day. Same thing used to happen in the rear until I rolled them. I didn't do the front because it looked like there wasn't really anything to roll. When I referred to the 225's not being enough tire for the power, it's because my new vortech sc is REALLY fast!
I could really use some more grip up front. I bought some 20mm spacers for wider track but never used them. They look like I would rip the fenders off under load at autox. My suspension is H&R/bilsteins, with switched hats (from '97). I have a little camber, I'm also thinking of going with adjustable camber plates, Either Ground Control ofrKline. I think the GC's give more adjustment. I can see some evidence that I have had some rubbing of a brake line from a sway bar link, some where along the line. SO, the big question is: what does it take to get 245 Hoosiers in front withou breaking something? Maybe I just need some NEW tires. These were used GAC tires & I've run them about 14 events. Any thoughts on the GAC tires?