please tell me we dont have these

[LSB]

this guy is a complete moron:
http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/jensen061203.html

but my question is if our cars come with these type of 'black boxes' that can be used against us like that.

[kevln]

say, weren't you banned here before?

[LSB]

Yes, for beating up n00bs like you

[Duckydos]

I'll be honest, I have never heard of that before. I sure as hell hope my car doesn't have one. The closest thing I have seen to something like that is those boxxes AAA is trying to push that allows parents to spy on their children. I know they are also used (along with GPS) to track truckers and make sure they're staying on route.

-Ducky

[mikke]

In Sweden Saab got that "black box" to check data on car crashes.

[teuton]

Those black boxes are coming on a lot of the higher end GM cars already. There is talk about OBDIII to build this feature in to the cars computer. Hopefully, someone will figure out a way to disengage them.

Pete

[Josh]

I guess this is a good reason to boycott GM and any other automaker that employs this system (as far as I know, BMW does not have a system like this). I do not see how they can legally monitor their customers actions like that, and I am sure they are able to monitor a lot more than the last 5 seconds if they wanted to. I am sure there is no contract customers have to sign that states their vehicle is equipped with covert surveillance equipment to spy on them.
Almost equally scary is the equipment has been tested and deemed unreliable in certain situations. Yet, dazzled by this new evasive technology, the judge choose to disregard those tests.

[viktorleivo]

Yeah, i once heard about saab having those kind of black boxes in theír cars, but never knew they could send somebody to prison with them, that is totally sick!!

[petar7408]

Originally posted by teuton
There is talk about OBDIII to build this feature in to the cars computer.

ODB 2 even has some info kept... all the more reason to go out and buy yourself that 95 M3... ODB 1 BABY!!!!

[method829]

the info in these black boxes are usually at 5 second or 10 second memory. Not your whole trip.

[StandardDeviant]

they have to be recording the entire trip because they cannot tell when you are going to have an accident...

now maybe they only remember the 10 seconds before the accident... but the fact is... that can quickly change

[John]

Vettes have had these for awhile.

[Red Bimmer]

thought OBDII already have black box type recorders, I remember reading a post bout two years ago from a guy who overrevved his 99 m3 and the dealer retreived the last position of the revs and gear and voided his warranty.

What the hell would a black box help, unless it recorded what happened before a deadly crash with exterior/interior mounted cameras.

[petar7408]

this will all lead to where cops will be able to shut your car off with a puch of a button, if they are chasing you or whatnot

[John]

Originally posted by petar7408
this will all lead to where cops will be able to shut your car off with a puch of a button, if they are chasing you or whatnot

They can already do that more or less if your car is has On-Star.

I heard a funny story of a guy who took his On-Star car to a driving event. On-star called him in the middle of one of his track sessions to ask him if everything was okay, because they had been monitoring his car driving in an erratic and dangerous manor.