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Old 03-03-2003, 05:28 AM
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Question active autowerks turbos

hey i see alot of dtmpower drivers with aa turbos.... and i was just wondering how much they are, including the levels of the turbos and how much power it adds. o yeah aa turbos for the M3's 97-99. thanx
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:02 AM
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Over $10,000 installed. Anywhere from 360hp to over 600hp depending on how well endowed your wallet is.

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Old 03-03-2003, 02:16 PM
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I'd venture to say that you get what you pay for though, with AA.
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Old 03-03-2003, 02:49 PM
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Pricing depends on what you want, and what you want to spend.
Actually, I dont really know why I am typing this post, because you say that your ride is a AA Turbo 95 M3 Hmmmmmm.............you know what I'm thinking
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:34 PM
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I find the active stuff slightly over priced....yes is fast, yes the numbers are nice. But from the money spent, I dont think there is much value. I personally would be pissed if I spent $50k in addition to an M3 and got similar numbers to a Supra with bolt ons......

for the record, my opinion really doesnt matter as I couldnt afford an active turbo if i wanted to. That and I'm a NA guy.
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Old 03-03-2003, 06:59 PM
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Well you have a 95 AA turbo, why dont you tell us.
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You do get what you pay for, but i agree with Rob, i think the turbo kits should come down in price a bit.. they've been out for so long, and comparable kits for other marques are half the price.

That said, AA does run the software game like no other .. they seem to find power everywhere out of other tuners' setups.
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As much as I love AA, especially after visiting the place last summer, I think their turbo kits are a little overpriced. Now, I'm not saying their kits are bad, they are simply awesome, but almost $11,000 for a kit that gives you 435 HP?? Spend $1500 worth of mods on a Supra TT and you have close to 450 HP to the WHEELS. Now, I don't want to turn this into a flame war, but just something to think about. Other than that, AA ROCKS!!!!!
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Old 03-03-2003, 08:25 PM
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ebdy- yeah, totally- i'm not discrediting AA at all, they simply are the best. If you want a turbo for a BMW, AA is the only way to go. I just wish they were more affordable..
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Old 03-03-2003, 08:47 PM
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I guess they have to recover their R&D time some how, and maybe if the demand was higher for the kits. The price would be cheap, but when you are the only one making good turbo kits. You can set your own price.
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Old 03-03-2003, 09:13 PM
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Be fair guys, getting huge hp out of an already turbo car is not an issue. The motors are built to handle boost w/ low compression, proper exhuast routing, strong blocks, strong bottom ends, etc. In many applications you just turn up the boost / increace flow and ad more fuel and you have a monster. But you are not comparing apples to apples when you bring a supra up, with an AA turbo.

I think AA has done a bang up job of setting up a turbo for an N/A motor. To pull it off on one car is hard enough, but it can be done with dyno time, stand alone, etc. But they have produced a kit to bolt on turbos, i'm sure people will compare thier prices to lets say a honda kit. Thats not fair for many reason, one honda's were produced in such high numbers there are more cars for them to go on, and two most of those kits are not worth a damn anyway (most not all ).

To do a turbo right you have to change so much of the motor, and figure out where to put all that extra plumbing, then once a layout is established there is the matter of picking the right turbo, even on car that came with turbo's picking an upgrade is hard as crap, a T04 is not just a T04, there are a myriad of differnt combinations that can be used with this one turbo. So now you find the turbo with the flow map you really like, well turning that flow in reliable air/fuel and hp would be no easy matter.

Their prices are high, but the cost of kit that cost less could be much higher, boost spikes, nasty a/f curves, heat where you don't want it in the motor, poorly routed turbo cooling, fried blocks / heads, wholes in pistons, or maybe just a whole in the oil pan from where the piston shot through....

M50s, and 52s Motors, will never be the 2jz or the RB20 (best strait 6 turbo motors currently produced). Can you make it a great turbo motor, yeah, but it will cost more, and it should cost more, but to be different and fast most always is.

I have no affiliation with AA, I just have seen what thier cars do and it is impressive.
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As much as I love AA, especially after visiting the place last summer, I think their turbo kits are a little overpriced. Now, I'm not saying their kits are bad, they are simply awesome, but almost $11,000 for a kit that gives you 435 HP?? Spend $1500 worth of mods on a Supra TT and you have close to 450 HP to the WHEELS. Now, I don't want to turn this into a flame war, but just something to think about. Other than that, AA ROCKS!!!!!
You can't really compare the two. A Supra is a factory turbocharged car. Apples to oranges.
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You can't really compare the two. A Supra is a factory turbocharged car. Apples to oranges.
I know, I was just giving an example of how cheap it is to get MAD power out of the Supra. Suprastore.com has a kit that costs $12,000 or so, and it puts you at 900 HP or so, and I heard $12,000 is kind of on the expensive side for that, and you can get a kit for much cheaper to attain that power.

Ok, to make an NA Supra a turbo is cheaper than turbo'ing the M3. Then again, the Supra's engine is amazing and meant to handle boost, so I guess you can't really compare. Wait, yes you can, both of them are great cars, it just so happens that the Supra is better
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:38 PM
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I really like the 03 cobra's though. just spend about $2g and you get about 700rwhp and a 9-10 sec. car.

very good post there Klasic!
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Old 03-03-2003, 10:57 PM
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Any 1 else find it funny that the 1 to start this thread already has a AA turbo M3!!!!!! LOL, what a (removed by mod and user warned)
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