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Old 01-12-2003, 09:20 PM
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NOS is an acceptable term for N20 for the fact that it can be an acronym --- Nitrous Oxide System = N.O.S. However, you would have to call it "a NOS", and not just "NOS"

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Sorry, I'm used to the Honda forums where people are very specific about this kinda thing... I believe the terms were seperated because a lot of fools came in with misconceptions about NOS/N2O... So I'm used to getting a lot of heat when saying NOS for N2O... Different groups use diff. terminology I guess

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Old 01-12-2003, 09:48 PM
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There are some arrogant opinions in this thread, however, I am not starting a war.

Yes, a civic with a 50 shot that thinks he has a race car is dumb.

What about a 13 second M3 that runs 12's in the 1/4 with nitrous? Is that dumb? You tell me. Find me a Dinan S/C M3 and I'll show you a $5900 mod that cannot hang with a $600 bottle in a straight line. I also dynoed only 25 hp less than 2 Dinan M3's in town when we did our dyno day WITHOUT NITROUS, so on a road course or auto-x, they better be on the ball.

Do I use nitrous? Well, see sig... When I get $10,500, I will sell the bottle, and get me an AA turbo. Until then, I will spend my money on plenty other things than just a car. It was nice to buy my own house when I was 24.

How often do I use it? Still on the first bottle. Oh, and the bottle stays at home when on the track or auto-xing. I will only use it when I toy around at the drags.

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Old 01-13-2003, 12:15 AM
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I gotta see your N20 setup Mike then see how well it helps you at the dragstrip. I've never seen anyone in a BMW running Nitrous.

Those pulleys must help you a lot if you are -25hp a Dinan Blown M3.

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Old 01-13-2003, 05:24 AM
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IMO there is nothing wrong with nitrous. I would prefer to get a turbo kit, but there is no doubt about it, that nitrous is the best bang for its buck. The reason why nitrous blows engines up so much is because many times people run to much nitrous and not enough fuel causing the engine to run extremely lean. Nitrious along with any other type of power adders must maintain a good air/fuel mixture. I know some people that have a wet nitrous kit that have little problems with their set up, it is the ones that run the dry kit that seem to have the most trouble.
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Old 01-13-2003, 05:57 AM
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Nothing wrong w/ n20. I originally had n20 on my m3 for a year then switched to an ERT s/c and ran that for 6 months. Since i normally dont drive my car hard all the time i sold the charger and went back to my nitrous setup and am happier. Gives me the extra power when i need it and totally safe when used right. All the bad stories you get are cars running way to big of a shot or improper installation. Ive never had a problem and am happy.
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Old 01-13-2003, 06:56 AM
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Nothing wrong w/ n20. I originally had n20 on my m3 for a year then switched to an ERT s/c and ran that for 6 months. Since i normally dont drive my car hard all the time i sold the charger and went back to my nitrous setup and am happier. Gives me the extra power when i need it and totally safe when used right. All the bad stories you get are cars running way to big of a shot or improper installation. Ive never had a problem and am happy.
I totally agree. I had a civic ricer in my town ask me the other day if I would help him install a 100 shot on his civic. I told him I wouldn't because 100 shot would blow his engine. He insisted, and I still won't touch it.

I drive my car to work and back. There is no need to be boosting in rush hour traffic. Great post JCM3.
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Old 01-13-2003, 10:42 AM
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Thanks...its just the honest truth bang for buck it cant be beaten. Its very safe.there are just some precautions you have to follow (check plugs, new fuel filter, add fuel pressure gauge,check your jets (some people mix these up), get a window switch). Just like a turbo you dont go out and put a boost controller and crank it to 25psi on a stock motor. Just use your brain and everything will be okay.
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bottles are for babies, real men get BLOWN
so what does this make me? Cause last time i looked under the hood i had a blower and an NX system hooked up...hmmm

Power is power, i dont care how you get it. Everyone always says, "oh yea you're gonna blow up your engine"...Guess what sports fans, i have almost 120,000 miles on my car and not a single problem.

Everyone has an opinion without experience. If you have experience and you're against it fine, go into detail as to why, perhaps you will enlighten some people. The issue of ZEX kits has been beaten to death so dont use them as examples.


and i think i'll be filling bottles till i'm 50 before that money will add up to a turbo kit

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nitrous oxide is NOT FLAMMABLE by any definition. It is an oxidizer, so when your car blows up for any other reason, it will literally fan the flames, but it is the "air" not the "fuel".

BTW postmaster, that "FAQ" was copied right off the NOS website, and is as much advertising as fact.
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also if your bottle were to "explode" it wouldnt be an explosion, it would be the bottle bursting under too much pressure

pressure goes up with heat...if the bottle gets too hot the pressure goes up and the bottle goes boom
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Old 01-13-2003, 04:55 PM
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but you gotta be careful with it because its pretty flammable
Oh man.

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Everyone has an opinion without experience.
Yup. I agree.

With the right understanding and fuel/engine management, nitrous oxide can be a great method of forced induction.
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I've seen N20 rigged wrong and blow the car parked next to this ricer ontop of the next. It completly blew out the garage door, and destroyed the car it was in, the three cars next to it and the whole building. Must have had a few tanks back there. I see no point to it. If you bought a car that was not engineered well, and you need N2O to bring it up to par, then you suck. But if it is to have power during turbo lag, I guess that's cool. But then again, turbo isn't all that great. My opinion.
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I've seen N20 rigged wrong and blow the car parked next to this ricer ontop of the next. It completly blew out the garage door, and destroyed the car it was in, the three cars next to it and the whole building. Must have had a few tanks back there. I see no point to it. If you bought a car that was not engineered well, and you need N2O to bring it up to par, then you suck. But if it is to have power during turbo lag, I guess that's cool. But then again, turbo isn't all that great. My opinion.

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Why, becacuse you dont belive the same? If I could find the pics, I would post them, but it was a while ago. Some of you guys can be real a@# holes.

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