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Old 11-26-2002, 02:19 PM
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Question 944 turbo Porsche

Im thinking about getting an 89/88 944 turbo porsche. Might now be the question to ask you guys but....any comments. cant really afford a bimmer at the moment. hows insurance on the car??anyone know where to get a hold of one for a decent price (5-6 G's) in california. this seems like a good car. any comments or input would be great. thanks

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Old 11-26-2002, 02:28 PM
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if you have a 98 m3, how can you not afford a bimmer?
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Finally, glad somebody asked about buying one. Let me be the first one to tell you, you will be amazed. I bought mine, believe it or not for 5G at an auction. The car has ran PERFECT ever since I bought it..........had 61K miles when I bought it.....it's a 86 Turbo.

Insurance I pay $1300 a year/ $650 for 6 months. I think auction is your best bet to find one for that price range. People who have the car either want to keep it or sell them for ridiculous prices. It's an outstanding car that will last, I'm sure if you find the right one you'll be happy.

Stock the car runs low 14s which is awesome considering it's almost a 20 year old car and a 4 cylinder. The handling is great as well, not as well as an M3, but it's not too far behind. It has a nice pull after the turbo spools, but not too hard. The shifter is great, a little long, but that can be changed with a SS kit. The interior is decent, but not the best Porsche has done.

Any more questions don't hesitate to post them, or you can just PM me any details you want to know, I'll be happy to help you out.

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I have NEVER until this day had trouble with any car, especially on the beltway. I've blown away SS camaro, mustangs, corvettes.
This is AMAZING and you will love it.
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The M3's my dads car and i dont want to crash it. already did once so....just thinkin of a good daily car thats kinda like an M3.
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Old 11-26-2002, 02:47 PM
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I would be careful about buying one if you're low on cash. It may be cheap to buy but you're stilling paying porsche prices for parts and labor.
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Old 11-26-2002, 02:51 PM
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big_sur is right.

You have to realize the expenses and what not that come along down the road. It may be in great condition but you'll have to pay for tune-ups and replacing parts. The factory shocks are shit too, so if the owner hasn't swapped them, you gotta do that.

Again, if you have any questions/concerns, PM me or post them.
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Old 11-26-2002, 03:00 PM
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yea i was thinking that. are problems pretty common though?havent heard of too many. any model you suggest that i should get? ive heard the 89 turbo has the best power, but im guessing more problems with those. thanks for the help by the way!
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S2's are nice.
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one of my good friends has one... he's pushing 28lbs of boost. the car will tear any car to pieces on the freeway (once you are in boost) 0-60 isnt that great because of turbo lag. i've drivin it and it is really solid. the downside is that parts and labor for that car run a fortune. really a nice car, but expensive to maintain.
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I absolutely love 944s. I would have gotten one except for the fact that I wanted a BMW seriously, if you can afford maintenance, get one

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Old 11-27-2002, 04:10 AM
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one of my good friends has one... he's pushing 28lbs of boost. the car will tear any car to pieces on the freeway (once you are in boost) 0-60 isnt that great because of turbo lag. i've drivin it and it is really solid. the downside is that parts and labor for that car run a fortune. really a nice car, but expensive to maintain.

First off your friend is running 28 psi?? Ok, so that is just shy of 2 bar (29.8 psi being 2 bar), these cars from the factory ran .8 bar, that is a sizable jump at best. Is he running stand alone? Or does he just plan on blowing the head gasket in fairly short order?

And what sort of turbo is he running, there are not many turbos you could put on these cars and run 28psi and be in the operating effeciency range. Boost is all well and good, but it does generate heat, and when people run such high boost levels often boost trails off in the upper rpm ranges because of it.


But anyway, I do own a 951, actually it is my 2nd 944 Turbo. And if you want to find people with good knoledge on these cars go to www.rennlist.com and go to the 944 Turbo board there are a couple people on the board with a lot of experience with these cars.

Back to the original bost, you said you can't afford a bimmer so you are considering a porsche. Did you really just say that? Come on now do you have any idea what replacement cost are on a porsche? Or how about a mechanic, finding a competant porsche mechanic is hard, finding one that knows 944 Turbos is even harder. This is not a simple motor.

I'll break it down for you this way, you are looking to get a 944 Turbo for 5 to 6k. Ok that is resonable that is what I picked up my 2nd one for. But for a car in that price range you'll normally have 3 or 4 worth of stuff to take care of right away. Maybe less, but watch for Clutch, Timing Belts, Transmission, control arms, sun roof, seperation of the rear hatch, turbo bearings.... i'm sure I missed some too....

I think they are great cars, and have a ton of potential, my k27 powered 951 will run with my dads E46 M3 with out a problem and i'm only running 12 psi.....
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Yah, Klasic's (Ian's) 944t is so fast.. that shit will pull my E30 no problem on the highway! I admit i never liked the cars until Ian talked me into them :P

They do look sweet and have a ton of potential, just need a lot of money to do so!
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ACTUALLY, coach, the 89 TURBO S (my car) is set stock at 1.8 bar. My weltmeister ECU ups my boost to 2.0 giving me 300hp and 330tq. You will not find an 89 or 88 turbo S for less than 10K. The S is very rare and expensive among enthusiasts. The parts and labor are also a bitch (850$ for a water pump). The S also cam stockwith Koni adjustibles and bigger brakes. The turbo is also different. The regular turbo uses the K26/6 while the S uses the K26/8. The K27 is a popular upgrade for the 944. My suggestion is, save your money so that you can buy a turbo S. They have more power stock (247hp Vs 217hp) and when modified they have larger hp gains. But, yes, parts and labor are a KILLER!
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Old 11-27-2002, 11:35 AM
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The Turbo S is not rare, and sure as shit doesn't run 1.8bar stock!
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ACTUALLY, coach, the 89 TURBO S (my car) is set stock at 1.8 bar. My weltmeister ECU ups my boost to 2.0 giving me 300hp and 330tq. You will not find an 89 or 88 turbo S for less than 10K. The S is very rare and expensive among enthusiasts. The parts and labor are also a bitch (850$ for a water pump). The S also cam stockwith Koni adjustibles and bigger brakes. The turbo is also different. The regular turbo uses the K26/6 while the S uses the K26/8. The K27 is a popular upgrade for the 944. My suggestion is, save your money so that you can buy a turbo S. They have more power stock (247hp Vs 217hp) and when modified they have larger hp gains. But, yes, parts and labor are a KILLER!
It is a good thing you don't have an attitude about this.... If you want to think you know more about 944 Turbos go right ahead.

Alex is right, there is not a snowballs chance your are running 1.8bar of boost. what you are doing is running .8 bar of boost, and using the 1 bar of norm atm pressure. And as for your hp figures, odds are you are a bit high, lots of companies make big claims about hp figures, and they are always too high when it comes to these cars.

You are telling him to save his money to get a turbo S hun? Well don't just give advice till you know the goal of the car. Sure the turbo S comes with the K26/8, and the M030 suspension work, but these cars are not new and ods are most of the suspension will have to be replaced. And if he is going to mod and plans on making big power the k26/8 is not the way to go and he will have to swap that out too. Leaving the only benift of the S4 calipers, but are those worth the 4 to 5K difference. When big reds can be fixed to a regular 944 Turbo for around 1k?

My advice is always by the best car you can afford, making a project out a porsche is not always a good idea.
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