turbo/super vs swap?

[Agaponi]

Hi guys,
I need some ideas.
I have a 325i 95 stock. 55K miles
Now its time for performance mod.
Im thinking around $5000 to $6000 max
What do you guys recomend me between turbo (AA stg 1), S/C (ESS V2Q type + M3 cams) or M3 3.0L swap (maybe later add a S/C)?
Is the swap worth it?
Reliability and Longevity is VERY VERY important for me, but also important get low-mid 13 sec (1/4 mile, for around 300hp).
Help guys, before I made a mistake.
Thx.

[Solokron]

I have a supercharger myself on my M3. I wouldn't mind the blow-off sound of a Turbo. mmmmmmmm

[Joey325i]

AA Stage 1 kit for the 325 runs for $8700, if you want daily driveability go for say an RMS Stage 1 kit, and save up and buy the
stage 2 kit later, the SC or Turbo will beat a stock M3, if you have the cash go for turbo, sicne i see ur budget i jes say go for the SC

[Solokron]

Joey. I need to get new plates and I want to get a customized one. I have several ones I want to get and have yours as a backup. I hope that is ok with you.

[Joey325i]

Originally posted by Solokron
Joey. I need to get new plates and I want to get a customized one. I have several ones I want to get and have yours as a backup. I hope that is ok with you.

awwww man come on i figured you could some up with some on your own, a few others i considered were

spooln3 or spoolnm
boostd3 or boostdm
4cefed3 or 4cefedm

theres a world of possibilities, so i would greatly appreciate it if you didnt copy my license plate, then itll be 'who copied who' and crap like that

[Agaponi]

ummm... why do you say RMS?
Is RMS better than ESS?
Remember ESS now comes with vortech type S/C and 7 psi pulley...

I have heard good things about ESS software, and very bad things about RMS software (regarding A/F ratios)

[Solokron]

Like I said, it is one of my backups.

[krisolson]

what would the reliability of the AA turbo be? i assume you couldnt run at high boost all day long, but say could you have a track session for a couple of hours, without totally blowing out your engine?

kris olson

[Joey325i]

Originally posted by Agaponi
ummm... why do you say RMS?
Is RMS better than ESS?
Remember ESS now comes with vortech type S/C and 7 psi pulley...

I have heard good things about ESS software, and very bad things about RMS software (regarding A/F ratios)

ive seen RMS at work, and its great, the software wasnt that ba don my cousins, but then again software isnt going to be optimal unless they actually have your car there to tune, so i say go RMS and have a dyno shop retune the ecu, thats what i would do

[Joey325i]

Originally posted by krisolson
what would the reliability of the AA turbo be? i assume you couldnt run at high boost all day long, but say could you have a track session for a couple of hours, without totally blowing out your engine?

kris olson

AA is great, i ran 9 lbs daily with no problems, i blew my motor because iu ran lean, injector popped out, piston ring blew, freak accident, other than that AA is top fo the line, if you got the cash then by all means go for it, you get what you pay for

[TYE]

Originally posted by Joey325i
AA Stage 1 kit for the 325 runs for $8700, if you want daily driveability go for say an RMS Stage 1 kit, and save up and buy the
stage 2 kit later, the SC or Turbo will beat a stock M3, if you have the cash go for turbo, sicne i see ur budget i jes say go for the SC

An AA stage 1 for a 325 costs $5995. But htat is the GEN 2 kit. The stage 1 gen 3 kit for the M3 costs $8700.


AS for what to do, read this, I had a 95 325 and see what I did.

Part 1: More Power
http://forum.dtmpower.net/showthread...eattle+project

Part 2:
http://forum.dtmpower.net/showthread...eattle+project

Part 3 is being written now. Stay Tuned.

[/// /\/\pty3]

id swap to a m3 engine....then when you do the swap, get them to install some cams, and install intake, chip, exhaust or whatever else you want.....then later on...you can always get a supercharger....or maybe turbo on the m3 engine...

[Hellrot Sachin]

If it was tuned right, why did it run lean in the first place?

HRS

Originally posted by Joey325i


AA is great, i ran 9 lbs daily with no problems, i blew my motor because iu ran lean, injector popped out, piston ring blew, freak accident, other than that AA is top fo the line, if you got the cash then by all means go for it, you get what you pay for

[airjordan23]

id do the m3 swap first. why not hook up the better engine.

i had a 328 and now i got an m3. you wont be dissapointed with the extra 50 hp.

then when youre done with that and money is right you can supercharge or turbo the m3 engine and god only knows how fast youll be able to go. im no expert but low, mid 13s is definetly in reach with a supercharged or turbo m3 engine.

[Agaponi]

Guys,
Do you think a 325i S/C (7 psi) with exhaust, and M3 cams... could hit low-mid 13sec?