turbo e36 318i??

94bmw318i · #1 (**permalink**) 05-06-2009, 09:38 AM

im new to the whole bimmer scene and i want to turbo my 318i e36 but i dont know where to start or where to look for a full kit.....an guidance would be appreciated

Jazzykelly · #2 (**permalink**) 05-30-2009, 10:10 AM

I am new to this forum. Like you I am interested in a turbo kit for my 1998 318ti. Recently I had a BMW dealer re-program the ECU for better performance. The power improvement was only noticeable above 3500RPM. I then installed a cold air intake system. The combination produced very noticeable power improvement in acceleration at take off and at high RPMs. Still I think I want more. That is why I am checking out a turbo kit. I checked out the supercharger, but $3200.00 is above my means. Anyone out there with a complete turbo kit for a 318ti? Jazzykelly.

chapellej · #3 (**permalink**) 06-04-2009, 09:03 PM

don't turbo you will need to change internals if you want proper hp gains, with stock internals you will only be able to boost between 5-7 psi with no damage. if you super charge it easier on the engine and better for daily driving, go to KO Performance - High End Import Performance and OEM Parts, car parts . i am super charging my 318i and it is alot easier to install and less hassle.

Jazzykelly · #4 (**permalink**) 06-05-2009, 05:38 AM

Thank you chapellej. After much research I also found that installing a supercharger is the best way to go. My preference is the Downing-Atlanta supercharger. I will use the KO Performance only if I cannot get the Downing Atlanta. My installation is a near future project. Have to raise US3500.00 first. Please let me know how your car performs after the install.

chapellej · #5 (**permalink**) 06-05-2009, 08:02 PM

will do i was hoping at first that i could twin turbo my car however upon much research this is no t a viable way to get power that is affordable, also less hassle. keep in mind you may also want to change cams as well as your exhaust manifold, install a cold air intake and chip. you will see some gains from that. i have done all of that plus custom 2.5 pipe for my exhaust and because the emissions restrictions arn't as strict i have removed my catalytic converter. also i have added a fuel pressure booster which helps with the fuel response. but do your research and also check out m42club.com

bluntface · #6 (**permalink**) 06-06-2009, 09:35 PM

also lots of people over at 318ti.org have the Downing-Atlanta, lots of good information there..

frank1975 · #7 (**permalink**) 08-08-2009, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by chapellej

don't turbo you will need to change internals if you want proper hp gains, with stock internals you will only be able to boost between 5-7 psi with no damage. if you super charge it easier on the engine and better for daily driving, go to KO Performance - High End Import Performance and OEM Parts, car parts . i am super charging my 318i and it is alot easier to install and less hassle.

It's not how much boost it's how much HP. It's possable to make more HP with less boost (adiabatic efficiency). Also I much rather trade in a 318 for a 325 vs a DASC. You will have the same power and probably have money left over.

Jazzykelly · #8 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 05:25 AM

Thanks for your response. By shear accident I was able to buy a used DASC for $2700.00 (shipping included) from the friend of a Mechanic who works at a BMW specialty shop. He has checked it over, made sure all parts are there and replaced all the serviceable parts. I should be receiving it this week. I plan on starting the install as soon as I receive it. I will post the results.

frank1975 · #9 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 09:07 AM

Cool, the two best mods I did were exhaust and tuning especially since the exhaust only cost me about $50. Throttle response and the gain was pretty darn good. Later I ran mine at 10psi and used larger injectors. There was a noticeable gain, but not work the time or money.

Jazzykelly · #10 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 10:03 AM

I do not plan on making anymore modifications after the DASC is installed. 215+ hp and 200+ lbs of torque is more than enough for me with a 2800lbs car. The only thing I will change in the future is the muffler when it goes. I like the Remus mufflers.

sikdogg · #11 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 04:32 PM

For about the same money, you can do a motor swap on your 318. With a DASC you can get ~200hp, but at that HP level the m42/44 is topped out and the only way to get more power would be to rebuild with forged internals. With a motor swap, 200hp is the starting point. J!m at 318ti.org sells a swap manual to walk you thru the whole process including all the parts (with part numbers) that you would need.

Jazzykelly · #12 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 06:30 PM

Yes, that is true, but I think installing the DASC is much easier. Also 200hp is enough for me with this car. I do not race. All I need is just a little more power around town and on the highway. Thanks for the info though.

frank1975 · #13 (**permalink**) 08-10-2009, 06:49 PM

I think it's 210 at the crank and you don't need to do a built engine for more than that. After mods mine ran 189 at the wheels which is about 230 at the crank. I've seen more a few dasc's on 100% stock motors put out 200-225 at the wheels. Low end still sucks with the DASC though. I'm not sure what 0-60 is but a stock m44 with a stock DASC only runs low 15's in the 1/4 which is not much better than the average car with is mid to upper 15's. It was a fun car, but nothing great.

Jazzykelly · #14 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 04:35 AM

I read somewhere that the M44 with a DASC does 0-60 in 6-7 secs. It's up there with the 325i. I think that's good enough for me. I am really looking forward to having mine installed.

Jazzykelly · #15 (**permalink**) 08-11-2009, 04:37 AM

Do you hear the supercharger whine in the car?