turbo e36 318i?? - Page 2

Jazzykelly · #16 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 02:48 PM

Well my DASC was installed today. What a difference it makes in acceleration. It was worth every penny. Anyone who loves his/her 318ti should seriously consider having one installed.

frank1975 · #17 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 03:04 PM

You should reflash the ECU back to stock if you haven't already.

Jazzykelly · #18 (**permalink**) 09-03-2009, 06:38 PM

Hi Frank1975...why should I do that? I thought that the DASC only boosts the air intake psi. What does this have to do with the ECU version?

Afuchs596 · #19 (**permalink**) 09-12-2009, 12:40 PM

EBAY has a complete kit for 1200 dollars and it includes a intercooler and BOV, im considering it myself...

92 93 94 95 96 97 98 E36 L4 M42 M44 325IX 320 TURBO KIT:eBay Motors (item 270445495168 end time Sep-19-09 21:17:42 PDT)

I was wondering though, what other changes would i have to make if i purchased a turbo kit to my car??? I was told i would have to change my chip/software. is there anything else i should change??

Afuchs596 · #20 (**permalink**) 09-12-2009, 12:46 PM

92 93 94 95 96 97 98 E36 L4 M42 M44 325IX 320 TURBO KIT:eBay Motors (item 270445495168 end time Sep-19-09 21:17:42 PDT)

That is what I am looking at. I'm in the same situation that your in. I really want to purchase that but I dont know what other expenses I would have to deal with if I did purchase it

redline2041 · #21 (**permalink**) 09-12-2009, 06:29 PM

I have a 92 325i I saw some turbo kits on ebay for like $900. I was wondering if these are any good or not
anyone have any experience with them?

mugen08 · #22 (**permalink**) 10-09-2009, 08:28 AM

hey guys i bought a turbo kit sunday very similair to the one on ebay i had mine made for me by fastway racer and included a downpipe. but dont be fooled those kits do not have everything you need a fair shair of welding and custom fab with intercooler piping will be needed. my kit comes in tommorow hopefully. i have been considering getting it installed by a performance shop for 1300 idk yet. 318ti.org has tons of info for anyone looking into this.

frank1975 · #23 (**permalink**) 10-09-2009, 09:10 AM

What are you doing for tuning?

blackedoutaudi · #24 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by chapellej

don't turbo you will need to change internals if you want proper hp gains, with stock internals you will only be able to boost between 5-7 psi with no damage. if you super charge it easier on the engine and better for daily driving, go to KO Performance - High End Import Performance and OEM Parts, car parts . i am super charging my 318i and it is alot easier to install and less hassle.

OP,do not listen to this guy.he is completely wrong.supercharger is not easier on the engine,as it is always at full boost even at idle,unlike a turbo.even if you are going to run high boost with a supercharger,you will need to change internals as well as a good engine management system.trust me,ive been around turbo cars for a number of years.if you want some more information,feel free to pm me.have a good one

mugen08 · #25 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:21 PM

im doing an rrpfr for now eventually gonna get the WAR ecu do a custom tune hopefully if my build ever gets done shops having alot of issues wating on parts apparently they need an m3 maf and flange was wrong. to all who arent doing this themselves beware you will spend dasc money if you dont have the mechanical know how. budget turbo is only for thos who can do it themselves. people like me who dont know how to install this themselves you will spend a sh*t load beware

frank1975 · #26 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blackedoutaudi

OP,do not listen to this guy.he is completely wrong.supercharger is not easier on the engine,as it is always at full boost even at idle,unlike a turbo.even if you are going to run high boost with a supercharger,you will need to change internals as well as a good engine management system.trust me,ive been around turbo cars for a number of years.if you want some more information,feel free to pm me.have a good one

Boost is linear with positive displacement superchargers, but even then any modern setup uses a bypass or relief valve so no boost is not always on. The need to upgrade internals is not dependent on boost or type of forced induction it's cylinder pressure. Good tuning and or engine management is ALWAYS a good idea.

frank1975 · #27 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Jazzykelly

Hi Frank1975...why should I do that? I thought that the DASC only boosts the air intake psi. What does this have to do with the ECU version?

Sorry I missed you post. If your reflash/tune was for natural aspiration one of the things that was done was advancing the timing. When you go FI you want to retard the timing in order to eliminate detonation due to increased cylinder pressure. The rule of thumb if i remember correctly is to retard the timing by .65° for every 1 lb. The ecu/dme can compensate for detonation/knock, but that does not mean that there is no damage being done.

blackedoutaudi · #28 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by frank1975

Boost is linear with positive displacement superchargers, but even then any modern setup uses a bypass or relief valve so no boost is not always on. The need to upgrade internals is not dependent on boost or type of forced induction it's cylinder pressure. Good tuning and or engine management is ALWAYS a good idea.

upgrading internals is dependent on hp level,not cylinder pressure(compression).

frank1975 · #29 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 01:49 PM

Are you talking about cylinder pressure or compression ratio? Either way in so many words increasing cylinder pressure is how you increase HP. I know it's not the only factor, but I wouldn't say HP IS the deciding factor.

Jazzykelly · #30 (**permalink**) 10-23-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by frank1975

Sorry I missed you post. If your reflash/tune was for natural aspiration one of the things that was done was advancing the timing. When you go FI you want to retard the timing in order to eliminate detonation due to increased cylinder pressure. The rule of thumb if i remember correctly is to retard the timing by .65° for every 1 lb. The ecu/dme can compensate for detonation/knock, but that does not mean that there is no damage being done.

Thanks for your reply. I am using only super gasoline and so far have not heard any knock. Do you know if the BMW dealership will charge me to reflash back to stock?

BTW, after driving about 50 miles after installing the DASC, the CEL came on. I got fault code P1140 on my OBD II reader. This comes up as Code 79 "Load Calculation Crosscheck (HFM vs TDS)" on a Bavarian Autosport Code reader. I have cleaned the HFM with the recommended cleaner and have done all the suggestions I found on the internet about this code, but it's still there. The car performs great, its just that the CEL is on all the time. Have you any experience with this problem?