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[4doore30tuner]

if i get the turbo manifold and the t3 turbo like this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...64124459QQrdZ1 is this all i need to have a functional turbo without the intercooler i am on a super low buget and just a basic turbo it dosent have to have optimum performance and such

[Highboosted]

super low budget and turbocharger do not go together well.....Just my advice to prevent future problems.

[Dendeii]

If i learned anything at all its, "If you are going to do something.. do it right the first time" because you'll throw this one together. It will kill ya engine and you will have to buy a new engine to get back to where you started at. Then a real turbo kit so you will be out of budget a lot. Take your time man don't rush into things.

[Rick'sm3]

agreed, unles you really kno what you are doing

[4doore30tuner]

all i want to know is can i do it or not and how can i set it up please

[shaggs]

honestly you'll need alot more than just a turbo mani and turbo to boost a car, especially a bmw. You need to worry about ignition and fuel delivery, ecu management, and you never run a turbo setup without an intercooler unless you plan on runing like 1 psi, who does that? If you really want to budget boost then find a used small t3 turbo from a junk yard that's internally wastegated (grab the intercooler while your at it), buy a cast turbo manifold, make your intake piping, add a bov, upgrade your injectors and maybe your fuel pump (depends on if your stock unit is still good or not), buy a head gasket that will lower your compression some, run your oil lines, and last but not least tune your ecu wether it's an aftermarket stand-alone or a reflash of the old chip. Run 5-7 psi and you SHOULD be fine. I'm not speaking from experience but i planned on doing the same thing to my M3 so i've planned the hell out of the setup(no money + alot of time = good planning)

[SiGmA_X]

DO NOT buy from SSAutoChrome. You WILL have to replace the parts. Google for it, there was a Honda with a SSAC turbo that FELL APART because it was GLUED together!!

[bmwe36turbo]

do not do a budget kit. i had one on my galant. 1st i got a used turbo and it made my car smike. 2nd i didnt get s/s lines so leadless to say oil and fuel went every where. its not worth it to do a junk yard kit b/c in the end ull spend more than a god turbo it for ur car. so spend the extra money and get new parts.

[4doore30tuner]

i just want a cheap setup i dont need 500hp lol but i just want it to work and be reliable

[shaggs]

you can do a budget build on any car, even a BMW. just as long as you do right you'll be fine. find a reputible person that has alot of experience with turbocharging and work with that person. remember though, budget build on a honda = $1,500 where as a budget build on a BMW = $3,500-5,000, so it'll be cheaper than a premade kit but it's still gonna cost you

[Raincity]

Originally Posted by 4doore30tuner

i just want a cheap setup i dont need 500hp lol but i just want it to work and be reliable

haha loooollllll


these guys are telling you it wont work. cheap + turbo doesnt equal reliability.

and im sure you think cheap is less than a grand, whereas in actuality as stated before "cheap" for a BMW is several thousand dollars.

[dangerranger21]

DUDE! dont do it DO NOT BUY SSAUTOCHROME!! YOu are wanting to set up a turbo the WRONG WAY!! A BAD WAY! IF U ATTEMPT IT U WILL BE VERY SORRY!

[8psi//E36]

Originally Posted by 4doore30tuner

i just want a cheap setup i dont need 500hp lol but i just want it to work and be reliable

Cheapest it's ever, ever going to get:

Manifold: http://www.666fabrication.com/products.html or a company of the like that can produce one in the $300.00 - $500.00 range

Holset turbo from a turbo diesel truck (Don't ask me what flange they are, they can vary) < Internally gated, price depends on junkyard / ebay. Don't get SSAutochrome, the compressor housings are glued together, period.

Larger injectors - There are a lot of cars that run large injectors stock. The first that comes to mind is the older Turbo2 RX-7 which has a set of 4 500cc injectors, to my understanding. These may not be what you need, but it's just to show there are cars you could find at a junkyard or find someone who's parting out a car like this, do some research and I gaurentee you'll find a car that has 280 - 340cc injectors stock.

Intercooler - I read an article in sport compact car where they took the radiator from a cummins turbo diesel F350, cut it in half, put it back to back and welded end tanks to it and as far as I understand it worked, but that's the jerry rig of all jerry rigs. I'd much rather run a stock sidemount intercooler from any of the following:

1g or 2g Eagle talon TSI / Eclipse GSX / Eclipse GS-T
Galant VR4
3000GT VR4
FD3S RX7
MKIV Supra
300XZ-TT

Piping: Find a machine shop or any "muscle car" shop and just ask if they've got any spare 2 inch / 3 inch pipes in whatever bend / degree you need. Measure first, don't guess.

Blow off valve: I would go aftermarket if you intend on ever running a high amount of boost for something that will hold up and withstand the pressure.

Again though:

Eagle Talon TSI
1g or 2g Eclipse GSX / Eclipse GS-T
Galant VR4
3000 GT VR4

^ The stock units on these cars will withstand more than what you'd want to run (Moderate 6 - 8 lbs. of boost).

Exhaust:

Shop around for mufflers, get your own piping, measure, measure, measure and once you've got everything exactly how you want it take it to an exhaust shop or a machine shop w/ an experience "muscle car" type of builder / welder with xxx years under his belt. You want this to be cheap but the exhaust system is critical and you can't afford to waste money on this.

Clutch: Upgrade it. If you want to just run 5 - 7lbs. of boost and make a little over 190 - 210 at the wheels then just replace it with a stock unit and cross your fingers OR just get a slightly "beefed" up Stage 1 type clutch from any aftermarket company like SPEC or Clutchmasters. ACT also makes very affordable units as well. Stick with the stock flywheel, get it resurfaced while you're at the machine shop getting your piping and exhaust made, it'll save you a trip.

As far as engine management goes, you have to ask around to get anywhere. I would look up some places in the phone book that tune BMWs for forced induction, no matter how "cheap" you want to be with the project, I'd still want some piece of mind that your "cheap" kit doesn't turn your motor into a holy hand grenade.

The money you'll spend on air to fuel converters, widebands and dynos is and will be the equivelant (if not double to triple) what you'd spend on just getting a chip burnt, period.

Other than that, just make sure the car is worth doing this to, not saying it's not but I've had a fair share (too many). Go over everything first, maybe take the head off and see what you've got going on inside the motor. Replacing the head gasket, valve cover gasket etc . . . .

Intake: 3 inch pep boys special . . . yeah buddy! Seriously though, $20.00 for the cone filter, measure the piping, find a convenient location for the intake to sit etc . . .

Anyway, hope that helps.

[e30-ix kid]

Originally Posted by 4doore30tuner

all i want to know is can i do it or not and how can i set it up please

no. end of story.

[4doore30tuner]

ok thanks i wasnt going to buy nothing from ssauto whatever i was just giving an example but thanks anyway