GT35R M3 application

[morerevsm3]

and ICS with 850+rwhp are only doing same traps as 450rwhp cars, dyno's are far too easily manipulated, trap speeds are not (for a given weight)

[SWReedy]

I'm not looking to make any more than 450-500rwhp.

[yellowm3turbo]

i may be putting a gt35r on my car here soon. i have a 9:1 compression ratio via head gasket and im getting a externally wastegated mainfold. im not sure if i will run into any problems. but i can keep you posted about my results

[Mpower///_tyron]

Originally Posted by yellowm3turbo

i may be putting a gt35r on my car here soon. i have a 9:1 compression ratio via head gasket and im getting a externally wastegated mainfold. im not sure if i will run into any problems. but i can keep you posted about my results

Isnt 9:1 compression a little to high for a turbo?

[SWReedy]

Originally Posted by yellowm3turbo

i may be putting a gt35r on my car here soon. i have a 9:1 compression ratio via head gasket and im getting a externally wastegated mainfold. im not sure if i will run into any problems. but i can keep you posted about my results

please do any input would help, though I think I'm just going ahead and jump right into creating the set up as soon as the car arrives. my engineer friend and I have been plotting for weeks.

[8psi//E36]

Originally Posted by SWReedy

please do any input would help, though I think I'm just going ahead and jump right into creating the set up as soon as the car arrives. my engineer friend and I have been plotting for weeks.

The GT35R would / will be a great, GREAT turbocharger to go with for an immediate 500+ hp setup (Crank hp) at 14psi. George (ICS Performance - www.icsperformance.com) - cando great things w/ tuning the car to run reliably and make 480 rear wheel at 14psi if you're really interested in going that route. I believe Nick G. (Technique Tuning) - www.techniquetuning.com can do the same for you as well but usually only installed a Turbonetics 60-1 (Powerful as well).

Personally, anymore I've decided to go with the Turbonetics 60-1 w/ ball bearing as an option to make 450 at the wheels and just try to max it out before going w/ anything bigger.

The GT35R can be an amazing setup as well on a stock bottom end but if you ever want / wanted more power out of it you will HAVE to upgrade internals unless you've got a spare S50 / S52 collecting dust in your garage. If you want 450 - 500, would that be at the motor or at the wheels? If you mean 450 at the wheels, as I've said the Active Autowerke's kit's will make that, but only if they're basically "maxed out" and they're way overpriced for my tastes ($7,500 - $10,000.00) and that doesn't include any drivetrain upgrades like a clutch, flywheel, mounts or anything else of the like, just the kit itself and no - NO labor included in that price for that matter. For whatever it's worth as well, I had the stage 1 OBD2 gen 3 kit from Active on a 99' M3 I used to own and it made a whopping 296.5 at the rear wheels at 8psi w/ about $3,500.00 in supporting bolt on and internal mods. It was fast(ish) for the street but I was lucky to ever make that power reliably. I had so many problems with that kit which led to me selling the car and realizing the install they did on the car was HACKED and they're not worth dealing with in my opinion.

The Mitsubishi (Active Autowerke) TD06H 20G setup is good for about 400hp / tq. at the crank on it's own (Maxed out) and good for over 425 at the rear wheels with the 60-1 front end which will run you about $1,550.00 from what I understand (For the 20-G / 60-1 hybrid). This setup is again good but will not spool nearly as well or make the same kind of usable power as the GT30R / GT35R or the Turbonetics 60-1 + / - ball bearing turbochargers would / will.

I only wish the GT30R wasn't so much $$$ or I'd just go with that, Cameron made some silly numbers with his 30R setup. I believe he made a little under 500 at the wheels (450hp / 474 ft.lb torque) at around 14psi? Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it was very similar what he made w/ his GT30R and a custom T3 Stainless exhaust manifold www.danzioperformance.com

I hope this clears some questions up? If not pm me, I'd be interested to hear about what kind of setup you have so far w/ the car you're building.

[Imported Cars]

Originally Posted by morerevsm3

and ICS with 850+rwhp are only doing same traps as 450rwhp cars, dyno's are far too easily manipulated, trap speeds are not (for a given weight)

You must be very far mistakin, I have made 977rwhp on a car than has not seen the track. The 2 cars that have seen the track have both over 100,000 miles on them, stock internals low compression via headgasket, factory tuned ECU. 1 is a 328i 4 door 2.8 making 635rwhp, runs 10.78 @ 136.79, on DOT street tires, and the other is a 95 m3 stock internals, low compression gasket running 10.90 @ 136.52 on 18 inch street tires, this car has not been dynoed yet, the 2.8 has a 35r turbo. Both cars will soon see low 10's upper 130's low 140 trap speeds, over the next few weeks. (Factory tuned ECU)

[8psi//E36]

Originally Posted by Imported Cars

You must be very far mistakin, I have made 977rwhp on a car than has not seen the track. The 2 cars that have seen the track have both over 100,000 miles on them, stock internals low compression via headgasket, factory tuned ECU. 1 is a 328i 4 door 2.8 making 635rwhp, runs 10.78 @ 136.79, on DOT street tires, and the other is a 95 m3 stock internals, low compression gasket running 10.90 @ 136.52 on 18 inch street tires, this car has not been dynoed yet, the 2.8 has a 35r turbo. Both cars will soon see low 10's upper 130's low 140 trap speeds, over the next few weeks. (Factory tuned ECU)

That's what I like to hear

[SWReedy]

I'm looking for a very reliable and streetable set up that'll get me 400whp and about equal wtq. I think I'll be contacting Danzio, unless anyone knows of a better west coast shop / tuner

[Imported Cars]

Originally Posted by SWReedy

I'm looking for a very reliable and streetable set up that'll get me 400whp and about equal wtq. I think I'll be contacting Danzio, unless anyone knows of a better west coast shop / tuner

Just call Nick @ Technique tuning, www.Techniquetuning.com buy his off the shelf stage 2 you will be more than satisfied with it, up to 450rwhp and over 400rwt, best bang for the buck. Good luck.

[Highboosting///M3]

Originally Posted by SWReedy

anyone have any experience or data with the GT35R on an OBDII E36 M3?

There are plenty! It's teh most popular turbo among e36 guys next to the To4b HiFi.

Go here! Lots of tried and tested guys under the GT35R turbo!click me

[Highboosting///M3]

Originally Posted by 8psi//E36

I only wish the GT30R wasn't so much $$$ or I'd just go with that, Cameron made some silly numbers with his 30R setup. I believe he made a little under 500 at the wheels (450hp / 474 ft.lb torque) at around 14psi? Don't quote me on those exact numbers but it was very similar what he made w/ his GT30R and a custom T3 Stainless exhaust manifold www.danzioperformance.com

Thanks for that.

Originally Posted by SWReedy

I'm looking for a very reliable and streetable set up that'll get me 400whp and about equal wtq. I think I'll be contacting Danzio, unless anyone knows of a better west coast shop / tuner

I am the Cameron he is talking about. I actually built the website for Chris(DanZio owner) for free because I like him and want him to succeed. He built me an incredible setup. Here is a link that tells all about that setup However, I need to know what you want to spend. I made good power because everything was custom and a Haltech e6x standalone with harness was used. Now, he has made a more conventional custom setup for kaliboy that utilizes the Turbonetics manifold. He made 518whp at 20psi on stock internal 2.8L(328) 8.9:1CR via thicker headgasket and GT35R. That was also with standalone. Of course standalone will cost more but if you are willing to pay more, you can have really cool things like anti-lag, a switch to go from a pump fuel map to race fuel map when you want to fill up with race fuel...and it will be easy to retune if you ever want to change to a larger turbo and larger injectors.

Again, please click on this link which shows a list I am working on to help guys exactly in your position! click here to listen to people who have tried many different BMW FI setups!

Cameron

[islasian67]

good thing this thread came up, a friend and i are having thoughts of going with the gt35. speaking of the gt35, with the right tuning and set up, will it run well through circuit tracks?

[Highboosting///M3]

Originally Posted by islasian67

good thing this thread came up, a friend and i are having thoughts of going with the gt35. speaking of the gt35, with the right tuning and set up, will it run well through circuit tracks?

Did you click on my link above? It's a list of people that have used many different BMW FI setups and turbo combinations. You can learn from their experiences and see their results.