Twin Screw Superchager???????

[eurotekM3]

hello, does anybody know when the eurosport twinscrew scharger is coming out or how much it will cost? hpower? i heard good things about it. i heard it coming out in 3 stages, one with scrick cams. have a 95 m3. i want to do f/i and i decided to do scharger for right now , or i might go turbo.
can anobody help me????

[Dado]

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stimpee is working on it I believe.

[///3oris]

Stimpee has one, but Eurosport is a seperate company, which has them too.

Nobody knows when Eurosport will release their TS SC, although it should be "soon."

You may want to contact Steve (Stimpee) about what he has, but if you want to know about Eurosport, check out their website: http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com

Boris

[Bad Bimr]

Originally Posted by eurotekM3

hello, does anybody know when the eurosport twinscrew scharger is coming out or how much it will cost? hpower? i heard good things about it. i heard it coming out in 3 stages, one with scrick cams. have a 95 m3. i want to do f/i and i decided to do scharger for right now , or i might go turbo.
can anobody help me????

Contact Steve (Stimpee on this board). He will have a kit out pretty soon. His production manifold has been in his test car since early this year.

I have driven his car and can tell you it is Awesome. You will not go wrong with Steve's kit.

Just get in line for the Stage 3 or whatever other Stage you may want. I think their is someone in line before you.

[eurotekM3]

i was thinking of doing a RMS supercharger,but i been hearing bad things about them. maybe its just BS. ???????????

Depends on WHO you want to listen to.
Osh and RMS are the BEST for a centri blower for an E36 . Period.

The results are in my sig.

[Bad Bimr]

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Depends on WHO you want to listen to.
Osh and RMS are the BEST for a centri blower for an E36 . Period.

The results are in my sig.

Marco,

You have had a positive relationship with RMS, many others have not. Many mainly complain about the software, not as much the hardware. The Dinan kit is just as good and uses the same parts. Your car has lots of HP but your car is far from a stock RMS kit. I would bet, that the amount of money you have invested to make that power alone will be close to ~$15K.

The Twin Screw at 10.9 psi ALONE would make more hp then your car with all the other mods to your standard RMS SC Kit. At a price of ~$7K for the basic kit and another $1K if you want custom tuning to turn up the boost to 10.9 psi.

I am not here to break any balls but don't say the "best period" with all the turmoil RMS has recently had. But we will not go into that as it has been stated in many other threads. RMS builds a good kit comparable to others that are available.

BP

PS How can you say 10.9 psi. What boost gauge out there is THAT accurate. I can se a half of a point but not full tenths. Especially as psi fluctuates a little.

Bill, I say 10.9 but it is slightly under 11. It could be 10.7-10.8-10.9, just really guessing.

As far as your RMS comments, I agree the TS is the best bet IF there becomes one available in my LIFETIME.

I know Stimpee got some stuff going on and I wish him all the best.
As far as my power, I do not have 15K in power upgrades, sure I have a gazillion dollars in the car but about $11k is RMS stuff, me doing all my own labor.
My point is the hardware from RMS we all know is great, but the Software is aggressively tuned and simply makes more power on the dyno than anyone elses tuning.
Now the downside to that is, if you do not have a boost gauge, WB02 and EGT gauge and you are not proficient doing an install. or have a proficient person do your install, the things that make RMS stuff more powerful is the same stuff that will SCREW you if you do not have a properly setup car, either by a pro or recognizing something is wrong before it is too late.

Any tuner who tunes by mail can send a whack program the challenge is recognizing it before you have a problem.
Having stated that, take an ESS, ASA, Dinan, AA, or RMS, properly set up running the same 8 lb boost and I would be willing to bet the RMS shines the best at the dyno.

Bill why do I make 50 more RWHP and 30 more RWT than other popular members with the same hardware, but different tuning, except for an intake manifold and UDP's? That is why I like RMS.

I am in no way offended by your thoughts, they are legitimate, but I have too much experience with RMS to say he does not make the best kit IMHO.

Again, my opinion. the amount of calls I recieve from people for RMS info is amazing. MOst are afraid of being publicly humiliated if anyone knew they were asking. That is what bashing has done, but I am happy to report , many buy anyway, because rational people can usually see thru crap and recognoize when one will excessively bash the other to boost his own sales. Very common.

One more thing Bill, when I said "the best", the question was whether RMS was worth considering. When I said the best I was referring to centri blower setups ONLY.
I realize this is a TS thread, but I only answered the question, I was not the one to bring up RMS at first.

[///3oris]

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Bill why do I make 50 more RWHP and 30 more RWT than other popular members with the same hardware, but different tuning, except for an intake manifold and UDP's? That is why I like RMS.

Marco, nobody has the same hardware as you do, so please don't compare two different cars.

Boris

[Bad Bimr]

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Bill, I say 10.9 but it is slightly under 11. It could be 10.7-10.8-10.9, just really guessing.

Just round up and say 11 psi

Originally Posted by Marc1119

As far as your RMS comments, I agree the TS is the best bet IF there becomes one available in my LIFETIME.

A little birdie told me it will be much sooner than you think.

Originally Posted by Marc1119

I know Stimpee got some stuff going on and I wish him all the best.
As far as my power, I do not have 15K in power upgrades, sure I have a gazillion dollars in the car but about $11k is RMS stuff, me doing all my own labor.

That is still allot of $$$

Originally Posted by Marc1119

My point is the hardware from RMS we all know is great, but the Software is aggressively tuned and simply makes more power on the dyno than anyone elses tuning.

Why do so many people gripe about it. Why do so many people say it sucks?

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Now the downside to that is, if you do not have a boost gauge, WB02 and EGT gauge and you are not proficient doing an install. or have a proficient person do your install, the things that make RMS stuff more powerful is the same stuff that will SCREW you if you do not have a properly setup car, either by a pro or recognizing something is wrong before it is too late.

If you need a Boost Gauge, WBO2 and an EGT gauge for the kit to work properly, it should be included in the kit. As far as the install, how hard is it to install. Install a bracket and the SC and a few tubes. Nothing to "SCREW" up. It is simple and not very complex. What are the "things" that need to be done during the install that will lead to making the "RMS stuff more powerful" and "is the same stuff that will SCREW you if you do not have a properly setup car". Are these not the same things that can go wrong with the ESS, Dinan, AA, ASA or any other kit?

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Any tuner who tunes by mail can send a whack program the challenge is recognizing it before you have a problem.
Having stated that, take an ESS, ASA, Dinan, AA, or RMS, properly set up running the same 8 lb boost and I would be willing to bet the RMS shines the best at the dyno.

I would take that bet it a heartbeat. Properly tuned and with similar hardware they will all make similar power. RMS does not have some special magic that makes the Vortech they use make more power that the exact Vortech in the Dinan kit. Marco you forgot I was making 360+ rwhp with an ERT Powerdyne @ 6 psi, with Schrick Cams and an ERT crank underdrive pulley on 30lb injectors.

You are correct in saying the software is the key.

Originally Posted by Marc1119

Bill why do I make 50 more RWHP and 30 more RWT than other popular members with the same hardware, but different tuning, except for an intake manifold and UDP's? That is why I like RMS.

Because you have more then just a standard RMS kit and you said yourself, you have over 11K in parts alone from RMS, not including other performance mods. I highly doubt anyone else has a similar car. Congrats to you for having something no-one else has, that is what I want.

Originally Posted by Marc1119

I am in no way offended by your thoughts, they are legitimate, but I have too much experience with RMS to say he does not make the best kit IMHO.

Again, my opinion. the amount of calls I receive from people for RMS info is amazing. MOst are afraid of being publicly humiliated if anyone knew they were asking. That is what bashing has done, but I am happy to report , many buy anyway, because rational people can usually see thru crap and recognoize when one will excessively bash the other to boost his own sales. Very common.

The sad thing is, it never had to be like this. If RMS conducted business as professionals they would not be in this situation. Of the calls you get for info how many (%) actually buy? Why won't they call RMS direct? It was not "crap" what RMS was doing to it's customers, it was a CRIME and plain BAD BUSINESS. But that is for another thread.

I am trying to help Osh change all that, That is why I help him. As far as what percentage buy after talking to me, it is hard to say because some simply do not have the cash at that moment, but I would say if they take the time to inquire, they are normally ready to splurge,

Bill, I guess I push the enevelope with my car, for me, but I guess to show how far we CAN go with a centri blower. IF I blow it up(which I highly doubt) maybe I will go TS or TURBO, after rebuild or who knows I hear there is going to be a 25LB/BOOST Vortech on the horizon.

It is all fun.

First, my friend Boris. I just read on BF that YOU stated that a Stage 2 RMS makes between 330-350RWHP and around 280 RWT, correct?
Leaving your friend out of it, which is how you base the 350 RWHP portion of your guesstimates, the only differences are HEADERS, Ignition Soluition coils,
UDP's and M50 intake and ............different software.
1) I know I got exactly a 2RWHP gain on the headers(dynos done back to back days, same dyno, Possibly more with my new track pipe NOW.
2)the coils, everyone says, relaibility ONLY, no power increase
3)Intake manifold I got a 12 RWHP gain from this mod
4) UDP's , I hear from Turner it is a 10 RWHP gain
So the extra power mods I have, make up for about 24 RWHP gain.

So what would you attribute the other 26RWHP gain to? I would the aggressive nature of the RMS tuning. And What I mean is, aggressive timing with no pullback and favorable AFR's that are not TOO rich and definitely not TOO lean.
That is how I see It.
Not trying to start an argument Boris, just trying to state facts based upon my experience. I am still your friend.



And to answer you Bill, Of course, the things that can go wrong on an RMS kit can go wrong with ANY kit. It is just more dangerous on the RMS kit. Because he tunes more aggressively.

Examples you already know, vaccuum leaks from T/Body on aftercooler install. incorrectly installed silicone hoses to blower, BPV installed wrong or leaking, clogged fuel filter, weak fuel pump, improper boost reportings, inaccurate AFR reporting, beating on a COLD car,brutal,improper cooling system,injector leaks,improper belt alignment, belt slippage,thermo plastic intake improperly installed, hanging off, very common,low compression, blowby engine,.............you get my point.


If you do not recognize this stuff on any S/C engine you will have problems, just moreso with AGGRESSIVE timing RMS tuning. In my opinion.

Keep in mind Osh is one of the few that encourages boost bump. with AA you get what you get, with Dinan if you go over what they reccomend, they do not want to know you anymore, And ASA or ESS, whichever one uses the RRFPR!!!!!!!

Everyone is NEVER happy with their boost once they get used to it, bump it up and either DO NOT change their software or incorrectly state facts to the tuner, who uses these facts to tune.

It could happen to ANY tuner, just Osh more because he entertains this Growth of Power more than most.

Again , just my opinion. Thanks .

[badmonkey]

Originally Posted by ///3oris

Stimpee has one, but Eurosport is a seperate company, which has them too.

Nobody knows when Eurosport will release their TS SC, although it should be "soon."

You may want to contact Steve (Stimpee) about what he has, but if you want to know about Eurosport, check out their website: http://www.eurosporthighperformance.com

Boris

Eurosport is waiting for Stimpee to finish his, so they can figure out how to finish theirs...



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My man John, I miss you.

I got a Stage 2 upgrade with your name on it.
And John, I took your advice and bought the Sparco Evo2's with the Vac brackets. Great reccomendation.

You are THE MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!