Active Autowerke Generation 3 STG2 turbo system

[PDXM3]

I am thinking of getting an Active Autowerke Generation 3 STG2 turbo system for my car. I have a 1995 M3. Does anyone have one or know of someone that does. If you have anything that you can tell me about the system itself or the type of improved performance that you might get from this let me know!

[BMWGuy206]

There's a guy in Tampa, FL with a stage 2 kit and is doing high 11's I think.

His email address is Loangainer@aol.com and his name is Tommy.

[///MCubed]

nah, I don't know any body with that setup

PM me with your questions, if not call them up, they will be able to answer your questions (305) 233-9300.

[Kevlar]

Get it ... you won't be disppointed. I got a ride in one. I'm sold... without a doubt. I'm saving to do it to my car.

[WarChild]

Get a supercharger

[///MCubed]

Get a supercharger

LOL. Don't get me wrong, a SC is a great upgrade, but once you have been bitten by the forced induction bug, you will never go back; these words will come out of your mouth more than once, "I need more boost." I go every Sunday to BAA meetings it is so bad!!!



PS. BAA= Boost Addicts Anonymous

[WarChild]

supercharger is force induction as well as turbo

[FloridaE46]

One of my good friends is running 10psi on a Jackson Racing SC setup for an integra. He runs 12.9's, SC's are still phat, but Stage II is sick.

[PDXM3]

so what is the consencus? Do you guys think that the supercharger is better or the turbo? What kinds of things do you then have to watch out for interms of changes to the car? Do you lose alot of gas mileage or what?

[BMWGuy206]

Seems like this may lead to another SC vs TC again *sigh*

PDXM3 - You should keep in touch with ///MCubed. He's had experience both with a SC and TC kit. As for cost, well, it depends on how fast you want to go?!?!

I have a stage 1 setup on my OBD2 M3. I dont worry about internals of the engine. My gas mileage has slightly drop maybe about 5%-10%. I waste a lot of gas though under boost (7psi or 9psi). Installation is a bit more complicated since a turbo works on both the exhaust and intake side whereas a Supercharger is just on the intake.. really simple.

[PDXM3]

I have about 13,000 total for my budget to mod the car this time. What are your recomendations if I handed you the keys to the car and the cash (no you cannot leave and go to vegas) what would you do with it, or what would anyone do with it to make it an absolute beast on the road?

[Prestige329i]

Originally posted by PDXM3
I have about 13,000 total for my budget to mod the car this time. What are your recomendations if I handed you the keys to the car and the cash (no you cannot leave and go to vegas) what would you do with it, or what would anyone do with it to make it an absolute beast on the road?

Well first I would contact:
http://www.activeautowerke.com/welco...rt_service.asp

Then I would contact
http://www.activeautowerke.com/turbo...STG2-Turbo.asp

and see what can be done, maybe we can work out a package deal.

[sec edh]

Originally posted by WarChild
supercharger is force induction as well as turbo

Your point being what?

Turbochargers of capable of much higher pressure without parasitic crankshaft drag...they are simply superior in terms of possible power output--unless you run nitromethane and have a funny car engine, that is.

[///MCubed]

supercharger is force induction as well as turbo

Yes they are, and ideally they are both almost equal in efficiency (depending on the actual units you compare), but for M3's, I have yet to come across a SC kit that makes the same amount of power per boost level that the turbo does (SC's have more parisitic loses and the famous heat soak effect) and we don't live in an ideal world (if not I would be driving an F50 as my daily driver with one girl from every race/nationality to accompany it, oh and I would be a millionaire too).

so what is the consencus? Do you guys think that the supercharger is better or the turbo? What kinds of things do you then have to watch out for interms of changes to the car? Do you lose alot of gas mileage or what?

SC vs. Turbo = the never ending story. It just comes down to personal choices, so you just have to listen to people's opinions to see what it is you are looking for out of a kit. I have had both and have only been happy with one (even with the proper programming on the SC, which I didn't have at the beginning).

Changes to the car: The only thing you really must change is the clutch. Now there are a few options I would recommend if you are going Stage 2, but you only asked for the necessary.

Gas Mileage: I get about 250 miles on a full tank of gas. I think the M3 tank is about 14-16 gallons (don't remember the exact number). These numbers fluctuate depending on where, when, and what I am around at the moment . Now this isn't bad considering you are at a higher HP than an M5 (for Stg. 2).

Just be prepared to attend some of those BAA meetings no matter which kit you decide on (SC or Turbo).

Good luck in your decision!!!

PS. Just one final thought. I have not seen many Turbo to SC conversions done (I can't think of one for that matter), but I have seen a ton of SC to Turbo conversions (myself included).

[Ablahad]

I remember some guy on bimmer.org a long while back had the AA Stage 3 kit, produced 515hp