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| Oakland... what motor you got? 323 right? hmm... cheapest motor available in the US on an E46... sry but full price is as long as the dealer makes money, what do they care? if you pay $1000 over invoice for just putting the order throught n shyt they make $1000 for doing very little... especially when you move 10+ cars in 1 shot... that's a little extra work done by the consumer, that saves them money and sells more cars... by offering the group buy at a discounted price the dealer sells more of the product, which the might not have sold if it were not for the group buy.... |
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BTW, I was talking on a business owner stand point not on the buyer side. Buyers can do anything they want INCLUDING crying about a price that they can't get. For me its not worth my time to sit at a dealership floor and sob over the price while the cheesy sales man plays with your time and money. I just wont subject my self to that. BUT TO some of you, its worth it. There is no arguement here. If you want to bargain and cry about price go ahead. It's just not for me. |
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| Hey...Take it easy....I don't think you're flaming at all Quote:
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| well your in the bay area. prices for everything is inflated there. dealers mark up cars and small townhouses go for $600k there. I guess you are just conditioned to overpay for things. I do all my negotiations over the phone. When I go into the dealer I am usually in and out with a car within 2 hrs. Me step in the front door, check out the car, test drive the car, do the paper work, drive away. when the E36 M3 first came out I bought one right between MSRP and invoice. Everyone was paying MSRP or over. S54 M coupe, $8k below MSRP. NSX 20% off msrp. etc etc etc I average a new car once a year. Think about it this way... Say you save $5k on a car by spending 3 hours on the phone calling dealers. Isnt that worth it? If you can make a few thousand dollars in 3 hours, then its not worth your time.. If you CANNOT make a few thousand dollars in 3 hours then its definately worth the time to call around and make the best deal you can get. You probably are loaded with money so saving a few thousand dollars is not a big deal to you... |
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| Loaded = Not at all I like to save money as well. I just don't like to Bargain. It's not worth my time. THIS IS MY WHOLE ARGUEMENT. I DONT LIKE TO BARGAIN. For some reason haters on this board think that is stupid. And yes prices are inflated in the Bay Area, this is why I buy my cars in Sacramento. |
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| oh OaklandE46 you made your point, no need to call my little 318 bottom line beccause you own a bottom line aswell... so keep quiet when you want to flame someone and your not sure ![]()
__________________ who dies with the most toys wins! Last edited by drivingmachine : 10-24-2002 at 09:42 AM. |
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| Sorry about the 318, I really didnt mean it Quote:
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| HEY Ill go for the group buy but im in the bay area $*it if i can get an awesome deal on an e46 under msrp and possibility of financing ill fly anywhere in the U.S. keep me posted on the goup buy and get an email thing going. that would be awesome to own an e46 m3 for less then $45,000 !!!!!!
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| what you all need to do is STFU. Oakland is whining about paying full price, and the others are whining about why should they? Well, here's my rant. You're all f*cking rich, and shouldn't whine at all. I don't care what you pay for a car, but the fact that i can't afford a new car each year pisses me off, and you are all pissing me off. But... I'm also a student in HS so, it makes sense... A new BMW each year is in my planner But the fact that i need to save my money to buy my car, because my parents aren't going to pay a dime for me except insurance, angers me. You all need to cool down, and just buy your cars. |
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| How the hell did you get your M coupe $8,000 under MSRP....salvage?
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