"Let them eat Gruppe!" - E46 M3 intake - Page 2

Black Majik · #16 (**permalink**) 10-16-2002, 07:56 PM

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Originally posted by M3BOYEE

Um...that's a pic of my car I took today Rich... Just finished the install...

Throttle response has gone through the roof. NUTS.

Oops.... well.. my excuse.. dumb dial up... picture didn't load in time.

M3PiNoYdRiVeR · #17 (**permalink**) 10-16-2002, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by M3BOYEE
it's alive...

ohh crap dats tight albert

dronell19 · #18 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 03:43 AM

This is not the one purchased through RennSport GB, is it, Albert?

Looks maaaad

E36Eric · #19 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 06:29 AM

Nice intake, Albert. But I thought you were selling your car?

The moment I saw GruppeM, I thought of japan. I was thinking that they dont make anything for bmw's, I only see their products on japanese cars. But I guess you got the hookups, eh? haha. Nice job, looks tight.

LITEWAITM3 · #20 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 07:30 AM

Looks quality. Now where exactly is that drawing in air from? I see it takes in fromt he stock location behind the grill. I also see it has a inlet for the tube that comes in from the drivers side lower intake duct.

Looks like a good kit, I am curious to see dyno results, as the stock system is pretty well engineering and is really a "COld air intake" from the factory. Theres always room for improvement though. Let us know asap how the kit turns out.

M3BOYEE · #21 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 11:20 AM

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This is not the one purchased through RennSport GB, is it, Albert?

Nope, this was direct from GruppeM - sponsored.

The kits for the group buy have yet to be produced from what I understand.

jonsibal · #22 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 11:33 AM

impressive. Reminds me of Craigs R34 CAI. I think its made from the same material, if Im not mistaken.

Again, Im impressed.

LITEWAITM3 · #23 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 12:45 PM

The material is just quality laid carbon fiber. It might even have some kevlar woven in. It looks good, But I dont expect it to provide more then 3-4whp at most, and thats with proper ecu adjustment. Further power cna be gained from replacing the exhuast manifold and catback. Its a pretty good system, but because of emissions and US crap, there was some restriction on the exhuats side of the engine. The intake side is pretty good. Other then some sound dampening stuff designed into the intake plenum and whatnot, it restricts its a little bit, but dont expect a ton of hp from this kit. Looks great, quality product, but only so much can be gained from an intake

I do like how they incorpated the stock inlet from the bumper intake duct though, thats a nice feature as it is probably "colder" air then the air thatds coming in from the upperintake.I am interested to see how the radiator and engine heat affect the upper duct tube on that intake though.

If someone wants to donate an upper e46 m3 airbox (the part with the maf) I'll fab u[ a custom intake for ya

xS3x · #24 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 01:25 PM

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Originally posted by Soontobe2002m3
The material is just quality laid carbon fiber. It might even have some kevlar woven in. It looks good, But I dont expect it to provide more then 3-4whp at most, and thats with proper ecu adjustment. Further power cna be gained from replacing the exhuast manifold and catback. Its a pretty good system, but because of emissions and US crap, there was some restriction on the exhuats side of the engine. The intake side is pretty good. Other then some sound dampening stuff designed into the intake plenum and whatnot, it restricts its a little bit, but dont expect a ton of hp from this kit. Looks great, quality product, but only so much can be gained from an intake

behold my young grass hopper..
you'll be amazed about the power gain

LITEWAITM3 · #25 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 01:29 PM

Haha, well with the stock plenum, and just a change after the MAF, it dont think it will gain that much. If the ecu was tweaked a litt,e maybe 6-8whp, but have you see dynos already? Were they controlled dynos? Meaning dyno was taken, intake installed and dyno in the same day, same conditions, same car, etc...

I mean if the gains are more It would be awesome, but really you should get that big of a gain. Get some dynos and let me know.

Look cool though

xS3x · #26 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 01:36 PM

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Originally posted by Soontobe2002m3
Haha, well with the stock plenum, and just a change after the MAF, it dont think it will gain that much. If the ecu was tweaked a litt,e maybe 6-8whp, but have you see dynos already? Were they controlled dynos? Meaning dyno was taken, intake installed and dyno in the same day, same conditions, same car, etc...

I mean if the gains are more It would be awesome, but really you should get that big of a gain. Get some dynos and let me know.

Look cool though

samir@renn-sport did a dyno with the less aggressive design groupeM intake on a 330Ci and it provided the most gain out of all the other name brand intakes. just check this thread for more information http://www.renn-sport.net/forums/for...30&forumid=8..

LITEWAITM3 · #27 (**permalink**) 10-17-2002, 02:06 PM

Um, yea,exceptwe'retalking about an E46 M3 engine. Entirely different beast. Entirely different intake geometry. Nothing on it uses the same intake design, and the entire flow characterstics of it are different. Simply bolting on a K&N cone filter will yield gains as well, but noone wants to do that. Lok at race cars, they run extrude honed velocity stacks with mesh screening on the end. Engineer the plenum, and intake inlets, and just allow it to get "colder" air.

You can just get a 4" tube with a samco coupler on the MAF, duct it down to a velocity stack in the bumper duct and most liely get the same results, or even better.