New Road & Track, 330i got a beat down......

[Want a M3]

I still can't believe that the Infinity G35 takes 1st palce and the 330i second. Such Bullshit. The only reason they gave the G35 the #1 spot is because of the price. But you do get what you paid for, $31k for a uglyass but FAST G35 Jap car or $39k for a beautifully engineeered BMW 330i that is WAY better built. Although the G35 did perform very well against the 330i, R&T cannot simpily put price ahead of everything else. They do that everytime in these comparisons. The one that cost less wins even tho the car is somewhat not up to par with the other car.... in this case the G35 and the 330i. Although the BMW is $8k more but the name alone is worth that much. Not that there is anything wrong with Infinity but would you rather go out and tell people that you drive a Bimmer or an Infinity? Not to mention, the G35's ass and interior looks like crap imo. I am definately not a fan. Just venting.

[sfhighroller]

Yea, they forgot one category: Which car is better at picking up chicks.

[Blitz]

Yea, the new G35 does look like ass But, it is fast so you cant argue that. And it is cheaper. I think all in all, when you weigh the pros and cons, the 330i should come out on top, but thats my opinion

[Valeo]

i agree with you in a way, but 8k is A LOT OF MONEY! the g35 is a great car and i wouldnt mind sacrificing looks for speed. obvisouly the 330 is a better car but the engine on the infiniti is impressive. although the interior on the car isnt that great, leather seats, a decent stereo system, a cup holder and some ac is pretty much all i need to look for. the 8k could be put into a longer warranty, a system, some wheels and tires, and maybe a little engine work not to mention the rear seats that recline and the premium option package. infiniti deserves this IMO

[PhreeZe]

Originally posted by sfhighroller
Yea, they forgot one category: Which car is better at picking up chicks.

Hahahah thats funny. But honestly, the G35 is a great car. I would rather drive the Nissan Z but still a great car. And I do believe price does matter. Some people just want the most with there money. Dont get me wrong, I would want the spend the extra 8g's for the bimmer. But its just how the world is now. Price is everything! By the way, how do you like your A4 2.8? Seems to me everyone at audiworld worships the 1.8T. I dont know about you, but I would rather have the 2.8. Even though the 1.8T is easyier to mod.

[Want a M3]

Originally posted by Valeo
the 8k could be put into a longer warranty, a system, some wheels and tires, and maybe a little engine work.

Yes, but after you spend $8k on it.... it would still look like ass . I knwo where you are coming from. $8k is a lot of money but I just don't think that it's right for R&T to compare cars based mostly on price. As a consumer, I would like to know which car is the best in that price category... I don't want to rank them from price... thats what they are doing when it comes to the 123 spots all the damn time. When I am ready to buy a car, I will factor in the price crap but I don't want to read about how much that car cost compared to another in that price range when all I want to know is which car performs the best. Just my 0.02

[dallasdriver]

yeah i drove a g35 and i did not like it, think about it though the 8g is worth it cause resale, and think in 10 years what is the g35 going to look like if your a long time buyer and what about the 330, i bet you can still roll it 10yrs from now and it will still be ok.

[Valeo]

i agree that the back looks like shit. they should have made it a little more subtle, but at least it is unique? i like how the lights are bigger and ther are fewer. obviously the 330 is strong in interior, design, exterior, and build quality, but the g35 definately woops as in performance.

[ernie]

man, this has to be one of the few instances where bmw hasnt gotten 1st in a comparison test.

Ernie

[GreekM3]

Originally posted by Want a M3
But you do get what you paid for, $31k for a uglyass but FAST G35 Jap car or $39k for a beautifully engineeered BMW 330i that is WAY better built.

Although the G35 did perform very well against the 330i, R&T cannot simpily put price ahead of everything else.

Not that there is anything wrong with Infinity but would you rather go out and tell people that you drive a Bimmer or an Infinity

For 8g's less that "Jap" car would be in my garage over that 330i. Not only is quality probably better on that "Jap" car, I imagine maintance and repairs are less.

You said it yourself, the G35 performed very will against the 330i. Does 8000 justify its small shortcomings? yes.

And for that last what you rather tell people you drive, please. If you buy a car for the name plate thats pathetic.

[¤dM¤]

Really, the g35 won this comparison because it's a great car for a great price. In addition, this car is brand new, facing a car whose underpinnings were designed in 1998 and before (E46). Really, the total cost of ownership over a 3 year period would be lower on the BMW because of better resale, but the higher price of the 330i might justify a change in purchase desicion. Both are damn good cars, BMW isn't invincible.

[¤dM¤]

I forgot to add my main point why the test probably doesn't even matter:

NO MANUAL TRANNY OUT YET FOR G35

[Want a M3]

Originally posted by GreekM3


And for that last what you rather tell people you drive, please. If you buy a car for the name plate thats pathetic.

Ok, well why do you drive a BMW M3? Don't tell me it is just because of the performance that comes with it. You could have just gone out and buy yourself a WRX instead.... maintanance is cheaper, AWD for all weather, and way cheaper to mod. However, you didn't. I think the feeling of prestige from owning a BMW also plays a very big factor for you. Tell me, why do people buy $100+k Ferraris 360 Modenas when they can own a Corvette Z06 for $60k that performs better overall? People buy Ferraris because of their name and well-known craftsmenship+ engineering. You can tell people you drive a Chevy or a Ferrari.... which one would you choose? If you have the $$$, of course you would go with the Ferrari. Who wouldn't? I am not trying to slam you or anything but read the R&T article closely, they always seem to put price ahead of the real perfomance of the car. Yes I understand that that price is a big factor on buying a car. However, when it comes to being a Car Magazine reader, I want to know which car performance better without factoring in the price. You know I am not stupid.... if I can't afford the most expensive, I will go with the cheaper one. I don't need some car magazine writers telling me to buy a car thats cheaper when I can damn well afford the better and more expensive one.

I also wrote this a few post up and I think you didn't catch it earlier.

Yes, but after you spend $8k on it.... it would still look like ass . I knwo where you are coming from. $8k is a lot of money but I just don't think that it's right for R&T to compare cars based mostly on price. As a consumer, I would like to know which car is the best in that price category... I don't want to rank them from price... thats what they are doing when it comes to the 123 spots all the damn time. When I am ready to buy a car, I will factor in the price crap but I don't want to read about how much that car cost compared to another in that price range when all I want to know is which car performs the best. Just my 0.02

[Ryan]

News Flash. Price matters in the real world where material items aren't just given to you.

[Want a M3]

Originally posted by Ryan
News Flash. Price matters in the real world where material items aren't just given to you.

You guys still don't get what I am saying. Ok, I know price matters in the REAL WORLD. But what I am saying is can the car mags just don't factor in the price when they compare these cars. I just want to know how they stack up against each other when it comes to perfomance. If you guys look in the points page in R&T, the 330i lost becuase it got a whole chunk of points taken away from it in the price comparson.... or else the 330i could have won based solely on performance. All I want to know is that... performance. I will consider the price when I am seriously consider buying. Otherwise, I think the price category takes away from the comparisons in performance it these cars.