Do you swallow when you give eachother head?... This user is now banned.

[rowar64]

Total bs. When I bought another pair of zkw's a few months ago I read the entire post and it definitely helped in my purchase decision.

FWIW...I ended up going through umnitza solely due to price (that and Understeer no longer carried zkw's).
About a month later I get a letter from a United States Postal Inspector saying Umnitza and bavtoys are under investigation for mail fraud....actual charges for my headlight shipping (2nd day air) from CA to Phoenix should have been $47 but they only paid .27.....

[PurduinaM3]

They're scam artists, so that doesn't surprise me one bit...

[mikem]

Figgers. Those guys are a bunch of scammers, pure and simple.. They deserve what's coming to em...

[fiveightandten]

Originally Posted by PurduinaM3

Gotta love fucking M3forum....

Got a PM from Trevor:

I have removed the stuff about bavtoys from your sig and title. I am sick of being bugged about something I have no involvement in, so it's stopping here.

Word is out -- and has been -- about them for awhile now. Leave it at that.

Thanks.


My response:

Who is bugging you? I still receive PMs to this day about how I've helped inform people or how they're glad I've said something since anything they've posted was deleted. Isn't it bad enough that my entire thread posted over here, which provided nothing but facts, was deleted? After all, I'm the one that was scammed, and am out not only $250 but also the tails that I sent back to him.

Not sure how a small link in my sig is such a bothersome to you, but whatever. You're not the biggest fan of me, so I've gotta live with that.

What bullshit.

I'm sure it's not forum members that are bugging him about it, if you know what I mean.

Good to see them pulling a BFC and censoring people when they post negative experiences about vendors.

You need sponsors to keep a site like that running, and you need experienced members compiling a knowledge base in order to draw traffic to the site so the sponsors have something worth spending money on. It's obvious what the priority is on certain forums.

[mikem]

Too bad really. M3F had a good thing going there for a while.

[mikem]

To your edit there: my thoughts exactly. Driving users off is unproductive from the standpoint of garnering sponsorship monies. At the same time, just like you can have customers you don't want, you can have sponsors you don't want. Bavtoys and Umnitza might qualify for this designation.

[99MPower]

wow... that is complete BS... "we" really need to start a free website about how umnitza/bavtoys sux

[PurduinaM3]

I purchased a domain/webspace/etc with the intentions of doing just that, but it's just not worth all the time effort right now.

[inkaholic]

Why does all the drama seem to follow us? I'm not judging Lief but that is not very Christian like behavior. I'm no pastor, or a saint, nor am I am the righteous police but this type of conduct is unacceptable. Lief

[ths916m3]

what i miss?

[kworker17]

YouTube - Chimpanzee Riding A Segway - Parry Gripp

[BadGTho]

trevor has officially sold out.

if he would ever respond to my PMs/Emails.. i would be able to tell him just that.


power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

there are no checks and balances at M3f. it's a business and you all are not customers.

[slickfast]

Originally Posted by BadGTho

trevor has officially sold out.

if he would ever respond to my PMs/Emails.. i would be able to tell him just that.


power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.

there are no checks and balances at M3f. it's a business and you all are not customers.

what happened?

[99MPower]

need more info Ben... can't leave us hanging

[ths916m3]

WTF happened to M3F off topic????

M3F has really gone south, without the vocal vets it really isnt fun anymore...and DTM is still a little slow for my tastes
Now Im arguing with noobs over there, who'd of thought me of all people.