2000 Acura Integra Type R V.S. E30 Bmw M3...?????

[BmwStreetRacer]

I was just wondering who would win in a race between a 2000 Acura Integra Type R,and a E30 Bmw M3.Remember these are both stock.Straight from the factory.Who would win? I would go with the E30 M3....So....who would win?????!!???????..reply.....




Bmw E30 M3----

Acura Integra Type R-----

[strlen]

Tough call.. HP is almost the same (192 hp in m3 vs. 195 hp in Integra), , M3 is heavier (2885 lb M3 vs. 2639 lb ITR). Yet the M3 has the traction/launch advantage of RWD, 40 more lb/ft of torque, and a much better mid-range and low-end. Typically if an FWD car and an RWD car have the same 1/4 mile MPH trap, the RWD will have the lower 1/4 mile ET. So I guess, you stand a chance. In addition, there's always the matter of gear ratios, they could well be what will determine the outcome of this race. Both BMW and Honda are known for short gearing though (for the Honda it's crucial, as lacking a smooth and elevated torque curve they have to rely on gear ratios to multiply the torque). Smoke 'em :-)

[FloridaE46]

Well... the times that I've found have the ITR winning.

I've found 14.8 for the ITR and anywhere from 15.7-16.1 for the E30 M3.

IMO Honda's VTEC dominates in this race.


Sean

[Alex Mc]

Ok, well here's what i can tell you..

I was able to outpace my friend's Type R pretty regularly in my 2.3L M3.. it was always close, but i'd usually have him. At over 120mph he is faster due to much better aerodynamics, and top end power.

They're REAL close, but if you ask me.. stock for stock the Type R is much more fun.

[E30 Stu]

People need to understand that the E30 M3 was designed 15 years ago. The ITR was designed 5 years ago.

[Konstruktion]

Originally posted by E30 Stu
People need to understand that the E30 M3 was designed 15 years ago. The ITR was designed 5 years ago.

excellent point.

[Alex Mc]

Originally posted by E30 Stu
People need to understand that the E30 M3 was designed 15 years ago. The ITR was designed 5 years ago.

That doesn't change any performance facts.. granted you have a good point, that argument doesn't work you get run-over in a race

[sec edh]

Originally posted by E30 Stu
People need to understand that the E30 M3 was designed 15 years ago. The ITR was designed 5 years ago.

That is a weak argument over which car would be faster. An Aston Martin Vantage was designed an eon ago in car years but would destroy most vehicles in a straight line. Wipe the dust off a Jaguar XJR-15 and it will still crush many exotic cars of today...and so on and so forth.

[E30 Stu]

Where are the Honda's that were built in the late 80's that can touch E30 M3's in stock form? CRX Si's? No chance. Integra's from that time period? You must be joking.

[BimmerSteven]

Using the quarter mile as a benchmark, I don't think the E30 M3's are laying down high 14's consistently. The ITR, however, most surely does. Based on that, I'd say the win goes to the ITR.

[no more bs]

Can a moderator please lock this and ban all future posts of this nature? Every single time, needless flamewars are sparked..

As for who would win? Do you realize how much of any given race is decided by the drivers? The question can only be solved by RACING.

[sec edh]

Originally posted by no more bs
Can a moderator please lock this and ban all future posts of this nature? Every single time, needless flamewars are sparked..

As for who would win? Do you realize how much of any given race is decided by the drivers? The question can only be solved by RACING.

You make a good point but if your comments are directed towards me concerning flaming, I have to ask where the personal attack is? I just think it is ridiculous to make the statement that since one car is old and the other is newer, the newer is faster. It's ridiculous.

Oh, and the race would be very close but drivers make the difference.

[runetang]

Maybe its just me but.. i think people play magazine racing too much..

Type-R's dont put down 14's consistently, most people cant break a 15.0 with them, low 15's is more realistic. Last time I checked, an e30 m3 can also run low 15's, hmm .. lol. Regardless, these cars on a RACE TRACK would be a perfect match up ..

[Kevin]

drag race: ITR would edge ahead..but it really depends on the driver since they are pretty close
road course: pretty much equal but I think the M3 gets the edge....the M3 is easier to drive at the limit...so again depends on the driver

I have beaten 4 stock(or close to stock) ITRs while on the street. I ran next to one at the drag strip(I only had TMS chip) and I ran a 14.4 to the 97 ITRs(aem intake) 15.7. obviously he was a shitty driver. I find it much easier to beat ITRs at speed (60 mph+). I can easily pull from them.

alex mc: I'm gonna have to disagree with you on the ITR being more fun to drive. I've driven both and I find the M3 more fun, but everyone has an opinion and this is mine. I'm sure alot of people find the ITR more fun.

[runetang]

Damn you ran a 14.4 with just a chip? Sure you didnt mean 15.4? thats crazy fast