Alpine 9835 have enuf power?

[vafunkie]

I'm trying to upgrade my system and I need your help.

This is what I bought so far:
MB Reference RAA2400 amp to power the 10" Premium MB Sub (just one).
5.25" MB Reference components fronts
4" MB Discus coaxial rears

I'm planning to get the 9838 HU. do you think the 9835 have enough power to power the fronts and rears w/out another amp???

If I definitely need another amp, which amp should you suggest??

Thanks,

Hung

Edited: Btw, my car is 98 M3/4 non-hk.

[Bitchin'e30]

Don't power your speakers off of HU power. That HU us rated to put out 26W of power, which really isn't enough IMO. Not only that but its inside a headunit, not a good place for a amp!

I'm a avid fan of JL audio's amps, the slash series amps are stellar.

In my car I have a Alpine headunit, MBQ reference seperates, and JL amps.

[vafunkie]

What do you think about MB RAA4200 (100wx4 rms) amp for interior speakers???
I'm thinking I should get MB amp since the rest of my stuff are MB.

Thanks,

[Bitchin'e30]

I have no experience with MB amps.

[vafunkie]

Cool ! Thanks !!!

[E36DJ]

Originally Posted by Bitchin'e30

Don't power your speakers off of HU power. That HU us rated to put out 26W of power, which really isn't enough IMO. Not only that but its inside a headunit, not a good place for a amp!

I'm a avid fan of JL audio's amps, the slash series amps are stellar.

In my car I have a Alpine headunit, MBQ reference seperates, and JL amps.

Um I wouldn't answer a question like that if you don't know what you're talking about. The CDA-9835 is Alpine's most powerful head unit out - with a MOSFET V-Drive amp rated at 26x4 continous (CEA 2006 compliant specs) true peak power (how EVERY other company rates their HU amp power) is 60 watts x4.

I own one, it's badass.

[Bitchin'e30]

I do know what I am talking about thanks. Just because you think you do doesn't mean you can talk me down.

If you are happy with your little deck power then so be it. I've never seen a deck that had a good amp in it.

[E36DJ]

Originally Posted by Bitchin'e30

I do know what I am talking about thanks. Just because you think you do doesn't mean you can talk me down.

If you are happy with your little deck power then so be it. I've never seen a deck that had a good amp in it.

Honestly I don't think you've "seen" this one, just went along with the cliche you already had made up in your mind about HUs in general.

In any event like I said before, this amp will be enough to overpower most components, the high-current alpine v-drive series hybrid MOSFET60 amp in this thing is pretty unusual for a HU, also requires direct connection to battery.

edit: If you don't go with the internal amp, turn it off in the menu and go with an Alpine V12 (digital) multi-channel amp for the components, you will be able to set the internal crossover in the amp, along with other settings.. directly from your Alpine head unit. You can also monitor amp state (temperature, load, etc.)

[Bitchin'e30]

Oh, I see the problem now... You are a lifetime Alpine whore. You just think everything they make is god.

Fair enough.

I will still run amps for my components. Deck amps suck.

[E36DJ]

Originally Posted by Bitchin'e30

Oh, I see the problem now... You are a lifetime Alpine whore. You just think everything they make is god.

Fair enough.

I will still run amps for my components. Deck amps suck.

Um no, I posted some facts in my posts, so far all I've heard from you is "deck amps suck."
Glad to see you're open-minded.

[Bitchin'e30]

Ok. Let me rephrase.

real amps > deck amps

deck amps are for dumb people that cant afford, or dont want a real system.

Once you go with real amps you wont ever go back.

[E36DJ]

Originally Posted by Bitchin'e30

Ok. Let me rephrase.

real amps > deck amps

deck amps are for dumb people that cant afford, or dont want a real system.

Once you go with real amps you wont ever go back.

Right, well just FYI my car is still running a so-called "real amp" - the alpine one that came with the factory 8 speaker setup. It's a bitch for most people to rip out an amp, 8 speakers, 2 3-way crossovers for 6 of the speakers, then buy all new components and amps. I've had amazing results with my system so far (factory trunk mounted amp driven by the 9835 amp turned down to -10db output.) As I'm sure you know the stock amp is designed to recieve more power than regular line-level inputs, so I can't use the 4v preouts.

All I'm trying to say is that the V-Drive amp in that head unit is basically a clone of an Alpine 4-channel MOSFET 60x4 @ 4ohm "real amp."

[Bitchin'e30]

So lets see, just for shits and giggles....

Alpine 9835 internal amp specs vs JL 300/4 amp


Alpine 9835 internal amp

Rated power: 26w x 4 @ 4Ω
THD @ rated power: 1% @ 4Ω
Damping: Unavailable (it sucks)
S/N ratio: 80dB (A-weighed)
Frequency response: Unavailable (specs are given for cd-player section, not amp.. tsk tsk)

JL 300/4 amp

Rated power: 75w RMS x 4 @ 1.5-4Ω
THD @ rated power: 0.03% @ 4Ω
Damping: >200 @ 4Ω
S/N ratio: 108.5dB (A-weighed)
Frequency response: 5Hz - 30KHz

So which amp is the suck?

Thats what I thought. Oh yeah, "deck amps suck".

[E36DJ]

Originally Posted by Bitchin'e30

So lets see, just for shits and giggles....

Alpine 9835 internal amp specs vs JL 300/4 amp


Alpine 9835 internal amp

Rated power: 26w x 4 @ 4Ω
THD @ rated power: 1% @ 4Ω
Damping: Unavailable (it sucks)
S/N ratio: 80dB (A-weighed)
Frequency response: Unavailable (specs are given for cd-player section, not amp.. tsk tsk)

JL 300/4 amp

Rated power: 75w RMS x 4 @ 1.5-4Ω
THD @ rated power: 0.03% @ 4Ω
Damping: >200 @ 4Ω
S/N ratio: 108.5dB (A-weighed)
Frequency response: 5Hz - 30KHz

So which amp is the suck?

Thats what I thought. Oh yeah, "deck amps suck".

Did you just list frequency response as an amp specification? Haha you are a moron (fyi the human ear can only hear between 20hz and 20khz.. if you amp any frequency out of that range you are an idiot wasting valuable power.. hence, you are a moron.) Enough of this thread hijack, later.

[Bitchin'e30]

Shows what you know

20Hz-20KHz is the generally accepted human audible range. Alot of people can hear lower and higher just fine. Also it should be known that frequences you can't hear can still effect how other frequences are heard.

You got owned E36DJ, just deal with it. You don't know nearly what you think you do... you are just another Alpine zombie.